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Post by Sherry on May 7, 2018 9:17:06 GMT -5
We have made a great start! But they really do need a few more proteins if at all possible. They are only eating chicken, turkey, and rabbit. Have you tried them yet with beef and/or quail? If you can get those into the menu you will be good
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Post by olenka on May 7, 2018 10:21:28 GMT -5
yes, I tried beef. No success:( My question about rabbit: considering that rabbit came with bones and organs mixed together, do I have to decrease amounts of other organs that I feed them? With that rabbit I cannot separate organs from meat unless I defrost the whole package. And I would rather not do that. Right now it's a piece of liver here and there, then just meat, then a small piece of heart in another serving, then a whole kidney, etc. Now it's hard to keep truck of what they ate.
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Post by Sherry on May 8, 2018 9:40:36 GMT -5
Is it a grind, or whole pieces, or what? And how often are they getting it? As for beef, we won't worry too much then, but do still need to get other proteins in there. What else can you get?
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Post by olenka on May 9, 2018 9:53:07 GMT -5
Rabbit came in pieces. Everything is included, except heads. I can feed them that rabbit as often, as needed - bought a lot of it. My idea was to feed them that rabbit for a week, so that way they would get all the organs they need. It would be pretty close to their natural diet. I am assuming that in a wild a ferret finishes whatever he killed, and then goes for another pray. As for one more protein, I can get either quail or duck/goose. Getting duck is much easier.
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Post by Sherry on May 10, 2018 9:42:29 GMT -5
As they are getting frankenprey as a basic diet, they really need as wide a variety as possible through the week. Giving the heart and liver/organ meals separately in the week will cover this. What you are thinking of is a single one pound animal taking down an 8- 10lb animal and feeding on that for the week. So, for proteins they'd have chicken, turkey, duck, and rabbit. I gather you have no access to something like goat or lamb?
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Post by olenka on May 11, 2018 9:54:15 GMT -5
Understood:) I can get a commercial duck or lamb, even a goat from hare-today.Which one is better?
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Post by Sherry on May 11, 2018 9:56:26 GMT -5
Why not all three if you can do it Over all the price should work out pretty close to even. Just a head's up- as goat and lamb are stronger you will start by mixing them into their other food. But as they NEED a red meat in there, one/both of those will work well.
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Post by olenka on May 11, 2018 16:28:54 GMT -5
I am assuming that they would eat a duck since they tried duck livers and liked it. Does rabbit count as red meat? I am so tiered of forcing them to eat...
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Post by Sherry on May 13, 2018 17:43:51 GMT -5
It just might. Drawing a blank ATM lol. I'll get back to you on that
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Post by olenka on May 16, 2018 10:37:25 GMT -5
I just found quail eggs in our supermarket. And they are not expensive at all. May I get those eggs instead of actual quail meet? Would it count as 4th protein?
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Post by Sherry on May 17, 2018 6:01:04 GMT -5
No eggs don't count as a meat. But many people prefer to use a quail egg instead of a chicken one just because of size.
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Post by olenka on May 22, 2018 10:08:30 GMT -5
How about a rabbit? Is it "red meat"?
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Post by Sherry on May 23, 2018 8:08:50 GMT -5
Sorry! No it isn't. However, duck is I found out I would still do the goat and/or lamb.
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Post by olenka on May 25, 2018 11:32:41 GMT -5
Thank you, Sherry! I would start from a duck. Ruby is driving me NUTS! I see some regression. She does not eat kidneys soup, even if I add fish oil and put 25% of kidneys. I starve her before serving soup, but she would take only 2 leaks from my finger and wiggle away. But the boys eat from a bowl already.
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Post by Sherry on May 26, 2018 8:57:44 GMT -5
She's being a wee drama queen Let her get hungry and offer her some from a spoon on your lap. Don't give in to her. Just make sure the soup is half liver/half kidney and she has to eat it. If she won't take it right away, wait a couple of hours where she has no access to anything else and try again. If she won't eat it wait until the next meal.
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