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Post by lolososo on Jan 1, 2018 20:23:04 GMT -5
Hello everyone, it's been a while I haven't been on here but my ferret isn't doing too well again sadly:( First time, he had green seedy poops and was perfectly fine other than that. Eating drinking and playing as always. I got 3 medications from the vet for infections just in case but it didn't work. I found out by myself that he was allergic to chicken. So I changed his food to raw but it wasn't the best option for him as he still felt kind of weird. So now he's been on a kibble (chicken free, grain free, no vegetables, etc) for around 4 months and had no problem until now. He started having seedy poops just a little bit mushier than usually. This started 3 days ago. What has changed since then is (the day he had his first seedy stool) was that I cleaned his ears, he puffed up his fur right after when we were playing as he got really excited for some reason (wasn't agressive at all do not worry I did not hurt his ears or anything haha). It may be from stress but I don't think it (the seedy stools) would last this long. I also may have a suspision he ate a piece of bedding from a new bag of shavings I got for my bunny (was not in contact with my bunny and the shavings are little paper soft pieces). I've added water to his food to insure he is hydrated and I am not getting him too excited incase it is stress. I would like to know how long poops like these stay for ferrets who have gotten stressed and if you have any other suspisions of this. I will be going to a vet asap. Only wanting ideas and tips in the meantime. He is only 8 months old.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 1, 2018 20:39:29 GMT -5
He also has WS Waardenburg syndrome if that changes anything. He has eaten a bit less than usual today but I'm not sure if he only slept all day so I can confirm tomorrow if he really is eating less. He still has his big belly though so I am not too worried about his weight for now but I don't want it to get worse. I've also been giving him some extra treats to help him to get more nutrients (fat and protein) as it is freeze dried meat treats (he's had these for months also) and nothing bad with them. His kibble is made of 8 different meats and his treats have around 5 as variety is good for them!
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Post by lolososo on Jan 1, 2018 21:18:55 GMT -5
Also been vocal sometimes while playing when he gets really excited but it doesnt sound like pain more over excitement but this started around 2 weeks ago but has been a tiny bit more vocal this week.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 1, 2018 21:22:40 GMT -5
He just does little high not humming sounds if that makes sense and its when he stops infront of a toy and gets so excited and runs around after. He doesnt grin his teeth or anything like that and doesnt seem like he is in pain in any way as he is playful and excited as usual and even more than usual.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 9:52:52 GMT -5
Stools became thinner this morning. I supose it is a blockage. Should I do the pumpkin recipe or buy the ferret lax from marshalls?
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Post by Sherry on Jan 2, 2018 10:41:25 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like a blockage TBH. However doing a 4 hour routine of blockage protocol won't hurt him. You do one tbsp pure pumpkin(usually taken better when warmed slightly and mixed with a favourite oil), followed one hour later by one tsp white(not yellow) vaseline. Repeat both again. You should see large gloopy orangish stools in 4 to 6 hours. It does sound like he could potentially have IBD however. When you tried raw, you do understand there will be detox poops that are really weird for about a month? Because if he DOES have something like IBD, raw would be the best way to control what he eats. If it's really bad he may need a short dose of prednisolone to bring it under control.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 12:02:29 GMT -5
Since I didn't get a reply soon enough, I decided to go buy the marshalls lax and already gave him a small portion. I will see how it goes. Sorry i did not see this before. But how would IBD be diagnosed and treated if he has it? I'm really stressed out at the moment.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 12:09:12 GMT -5
Would you think it is bacterial IBD? As he is not vomiting or anything extreme.
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 12:11:16 GMT -5
He also has no contact with any other animals and I do not get in contact with any other ferret than him
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 12:18:05 GMT -5
Or stress IBD
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Post by lolososo on Jan 2, 2018 15:39:01 GMT -5
Just bought canned pure pumpkin and white vaseline but he wont eat either of them. He also wont eat the ferret lax but I took a syringe and fed it straight to him (only a small portion) his poop was less seedy but still long and a tiny bit too mushy than usual but still brown. Should I force him the pumpkin and vaseline?
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Post by Heather on Jan 3, 2018 16:59:55 GMT -5
I usually feed the pumpkin by syringe. The vaseline by I just warmed a bit and added some salmon oil. If you're satisfied with the stools, then I would hold off to see if that's enough IBD/IBS can be brought on by stress (stress doesn't have to be nasty, even extreme happiness/excitement is stressful) He won't have caught it from anyone, it's unfortunately, a genetic/biological thing. Just like some people are more prone to ulcers. One thing to note as well, is that if the previous issue was ulcers you may find it is again. I had a boy who was very prone to them. Just because they were treated once and it was cured doesn't mean it can't recur again. He got them every time that he was stressed. You can say IBD but all it took was about a month of clavamox and he was once again fine. IBD doesn't usually respond in that manner. Stomach upsets are hard to track in ferrets. A journal is often necessary ciao
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Post by lolososo on Jan 3, 2018 20:17:31 GMT -5
I don't know what it was before. The vet gave me medecine and it didn't work so I decided to change his diet to a chicken free kibble and he stopped having the weird poops. I'm going to see the vet tomorrow but since I dont want to spend my money on useless things, I wanted to get an Idea on what it could be to help the vet out as it wasnt good last time. How would you know the difference between the different IBDs? He was I guess stressed recently but how will we know if it is actually that? Because he started having these stools a few hours after he was stressed. That is my only clue yet if it is IBD
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Post by lolososo on Jan 3, 2018 20:19:23 GMT -5
I heard metronidazole helps to keep their stomach in control. Should I ask the vet for that? He had it last time too
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Post by Sherry on Jan 4, 2018 9:19:13 GMT -5
Metro is very stressful in and of itself. For now I would just keep an eye on him and see how he does. For ulcers or IBD metro is one of the 3 meds given in conjunction. Metro, amoxi, and carafate(to coat the tummy). These are given for 2-4 weeks, and sometimes need a second dosing of the same amount of time.
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