ok I tried the organ/heart mix and Loki licked a tiny bit then was sick, Oscar got quite upset and tried to attack me and Gizmo got himself so distressed he wet himself could i not use taurine powder instead?
This is the next lesson I have for you, it should help you undestand why the answer to your question is no you can not just use taurine powder. Lesson time! Today's lesson will be on organs! So we know that ferrets need 10% of their diet to be organs but do you know what organs are? Lets start with liver, liver should make up half of all organ consumption. It is high in vitamin A and C and in the mineral iron. When a ferret is feed liver as part of a meal their bowel movements are often a dark almost black color due to the iron content and on the looser side (looser BM's are true for any organ meat and also for plain muscle meat meals). Do not panic when you see a very dark and or looser stool after an organ meal but do keep on eye on the stools to be sure it goes back to normal. The other half should be the most varied combination of hormone secreting organs that you can get your hands on. The reason for this is simple, every organ has a different benefit to it based on the hormones it secretes. Examples of secreting organs are; spleen, kidney, brain, pancreas, thymus, thyroid, parathyroid, testicles/ovaries/uterus, gallbladder and green tripe. Most ferrets will not eat the green tripe (unprocessed stomach, but if yours will wooohoooo! (dance) That is great!) Now that we know what an organ meal should consist of lets do some math (I know it is so exciting! ) Just as an easy example if a ferret eats 2oz meals and you are feeding the frankenprey diet model then in one week you need to feed 1+1/2 meals of organs. So 1/2 will be liver and the other 1/2 will be other organ, this means that you will feed 1oz of liver and 1oz other organ for one meal and for the other meal that is only half (we usually combine this with the 1/2 heart meal to make a whole meal) you would give 1/2oz liver and 1/2oz other (that wasn't so hard now was it?! ) You can read more here also, Organs That is the end of this lesson, please don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have about it! :thumbsup:
In the pictures he looks good. Not too skinny at all.
Post by ferretdude on Jun 30, 2017 14:17:18 GMT -5
ok thats good about Gizmo but does this mean I'll have to put them on wysong epigen 90 as they will not eat organs or heart and i can't get them to eat it no matter what i do and trying to push them is really distressing them
The chicken and rabbit one is the better choice there, it has heart the other one you linked does not and heart/taurine are essential as you know. Freeze dried raw or grinds are no worse for teeth than kibble is. With both you will need to have teeth cleaned regularly by the vet or do it yourself once a week. I have 2 ferrets that I rescued last year that eat grinds mixed with FDR that I do this with. You can also use the FDR to help with the transition to organ soup. Just start with only a little tiny bit of the organs mixed in ith the FDR and as they eat that add the tiniest bit more until they actually are eating just organ soup.
Nice eggs are great for them! As for the menu, they may get bored eating rat 6 meals in a row and you can do away with the just muscle meal/s. You can replace them with the FDR. Feeding 3 FDR meals a week should keep everything balanced while the bones from the other meals will combat the soft diet effects on teeth.
Ok that's great so l just need to mix up the order of their prey a bit and replace the chicken breast with FDR. I can't start their new menu until the 25th but will let you know if I have any problems or questions that pop up
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Post by ferretdude on Jul 10, 2017 17:06:07 GMT -5
All's fine at the moment. Btw how can I encourage them to eat mice while I still have some as one of them, I'm guessing Gizmo, is eating the tails and paws but the rest is completely ignored by all three little rascals
Last Edit: Jul 10, 2017 17:18:34 GMT -5 by ferretdude