Yeah Gwin is healing well. He is due to follow up with the vet Thursday and hopefully get his stitches out. I'm thinking they will start to eat more once they are together again. Unfortunately I won't be able to see how much they each eat but before I separated them more of the heart was being eaten and more of everything was being eaten so hopefully all this will be resolved soon.
Hey sorry it has been a while since I checked in. Things have been a little crazy. I will try and make sure I post the meals this weekend. I take Gwin back to the vet tomorrow to get his checkup. So hopefully he will be able to get the staples out.
Weight: (I apparently haven't weighed them in a while I looked back in the thread and I don't have anything since mid may ...oops) Gwin: 1320g (up 20g) Albie: 968g (down 56g)
I am a little concerned that Albie's weight keeps going down however since they were separated he ate barely anything. He seems to be eating more now that they are back together. I will have to try and figure out how to keep an eye on that. They just never really eat all that much when I am around.
It starts out with them separated and in the middle (6/9) they are back together. This week's menu:
6/5/17 AM: Chicken Wing bone in 2.1oz each Albie ate 2oz Gwin ate .6oz PM: Quail bone in Albie ate 1.5oz Gwin ate 2.1 oz
6/6/17 AM: Duck bone in 2oz each Gwin ate 1.8oz Albie ate .5oz PM: Beef meat 2oz each Albie ate 1.4oz Gwin ate 2oz
6/7/17 AM: Rabbit bone in 2oz each Albie ate 2oz Gwin ate 2oz PM: Heart 2oz each & Egg Albie ate .6oz Gwin ate .5 oz
6/8/17 AM: Chicken wings 2oz each Gwin ate 1.8oz Albie ate .6oz PM: Quail bone in Gwin ate 1.3oz Albie ate .6oz
6/9/17 AM: Duck wing 4.4oz given total Total between them eaten 3.2oz PM: Heart liver kidney puree 4.2oz given They ate 4.2oz
6/10/17 AM: Rabbit 4oz given They ate 3.2oz PM: Pork meat 4.1oz given They ate 3.1oz
I want to but I have to figure out if I have the room right now. Would you recommend starting with the whole prey or ground up carcasses? I would be ordering from Hare-today and they have ground up versions of their whole prey. I wish they had more whole prey options. They only have chicken, quail, mice, guinea pigs, rabbits, and fish. And I am not sure if I can handle feeding whole guinea pigs or rabbits. At least not right away. Why do guinea pigs and rabbits have to be cute However with the evil rabbits in my yard trying to eat my vegetables I may get to not caring if I feed rabbits sooner haha.Save
Last Edit: Jun 14, 2017 8:50:32 GMT -5 by marietta
You can try the grinds to get them used to the taste if you want, I have 4 that do not like the texture of grinds and will eat the whole prey but not the same if ground. The only thing holding you back from graduating is you wanting help with whole prey, so if you think it is going to be a bit before you can start it maybe we can get you graduated now and then when you are ready you can ask for help again if you feel like you need it. How does that sound?
I am having a bit of trouble lately with them eating enough heart. If it is a meal that includes liver and kidney ground up with it they are more or less ok with it but if I just grind up the heart for a straight heart meal they don't eat a lot of it. Any tips?
And that sounds fine. I am not 100% sure when I will start the whole prey and if I have questions when I start I can just create a new post about it. I am mostly just having issues with space to add more frozen things to my freezer. It is pretty stuffed at the moment.
For the hearts, You can try either not grinding them or mixing the ground with water to make a soup. Leaving them in chunks is better for their teeth but if one way works better then the other for you go with it! My crew does not seem to like the texture of grinds much at all so their organ meals become soup meals.
For graduation I will need you to answer these questions and post a menu that reflects everything you feed for Heather to review and approve here in this thread.
1.) Give three examples of edible bone in meals
2.) Give 3 examples of organs
3.) Do Cornish game hens and chicken count as 2 different proteins or as one?
4.) What is the minimum number of protein types you should have for a balanced meal plan?
5.) Do young or baby animals count as a meal?
6.) Should you leave fur and feathers on whole prey?
1.) Give three examples of edible bone in meals 1) Chicken wings, quail bone in, and rabbit leg. Yes, yes and mostly yes. Depending on the size of the rabbit the legs may be too dense for them to digest. 2.) Give 3 examples of organs 2) Liver, kidney, heart yes, yes and for dietary purposes no. The heart is it's own thing. Name one more organ please. 3.) Do Cornish game hens and chicken count as 2 different proteins or as one? 3) No yes 4.) What is the minimum number of protein types you should have for a balanced meal plan? 4) 3 correct 5.) Do young or baby animals count as a meal? 5) No, just a treat yes 6.) Should you leave fur and feathers on whole prey? 6) Yes excellent bonus question, do you know why that is?
Your menu should be in Monday through Sunday format and weights are not needed in it.