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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 13:43:33 GMT -5
I did apply for the mentoring program, but am waiting patiently for a mentor :-) There are a few people ahead of me so I just kind of wanted to start this thread now documenting and updating. I started raw soup about three days ago and they are doing amazing!! They still arent eating it on their own, but are progressing. The first day they wanted NOTHINGGGGGG to do with me or the soup lol but I kept making them taste it anyways. Second day same thing, but Juno did taste a little more than the first day which is good. Yesterday, Juno would eat out of the syringe and would keep wanting more until I put her down? Idk its like she likes it but the second I put her down to get more in the syringe she would run off, but come back (sometimes lol) when I would call her name. She seems to be getting used to and liking it more :-) Not fully eating it on her own though. As for Apollo, he still hates it but is kind of 50/50. When I feed him he doesnt like it, but is doing a lot better than the first couple days. I absolutely cannot wait for them to be fully transitioned raw!!!
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Post by LindaM on Apr 20, 2017 14:10:50 GMT -5
Sounds like you guys have made a good start, so proud of you and the fuzzbutts! What you can try to do next is to see if they will let you offer the soup to them on a spoon, and once they are eating well off the spoon, bring it down to the bowl as they are still licking from it, and set the spoon to rest in the bowl. This will often prompt them to just continue eating from the bowl. Sometimes it can take a bit of extra work, such as you may need to refill the spoon a few times and hold it just slightly elevated from the bowl by an inch or less and then lower it down flat as they eat from it. It may take a few tries. As Sherry mentioned in the previous thread, some ferrets simply do not like a syringe. It's always good for you to try and get them used to a syringe in case it ever becomes needed for a medical emergency, but some will just not take to the syringe happily at all. Letting them lick it off your finger, especially while sitting in your lap, can also be a very personal experience for them. It tends to emulate that whole mommy ferret showing them what is okay to eat. I always talk to them when needing to do something like that too, telling them how yummy it is and how good they are. It also works to calm down both you and the ferret in that moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 13:51:22 GMT -5
Help please!!!! Okay Apollo and Juno have been eating raw soup now for about a month probably. Im worried about their poops and Juno more in particular. I will attach pictures of her most recent poop. She is still playing a little, eating and drinking. Is her poop normal looking for switching? Also Apollos poops have ALWAYS been weird. Theyve always been extremely mucousy. I dont have pictures but will try and get some. Sometimes his poops are pretty normal and then other times it can be pure mucous or more mucousy than hard. Even when he was on kibble. Still plays constantly, eats and drinks. i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/courtneeeeey9/juno2_zpsjdmpxoza.jpgi32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/courtneeeeey9/juno1_zpsw7gagivx.jpg
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Post by LindaM on May 22, 2017 14:22:13 GMT -5
Did she have any raw egg on the day of this poop? Raw eggs tend to come out basically the way they looked going in most of the time. For the first 4-6 weeks when starting a raw switch, detox poops usually occur. These tend to be all over the radar when it comes to consistencies and colors. Which is why it's very important to pay attention to your fuzzies, their potty habits, their behaviors and energy levels, and their eating and drinking. Did anything change in their environment recently? Have they been on only soup and no kibbles? Has her recent poops all looked consistently like the one in the photo? Is her levels of energy less than they used to be? That poop definitely looks mucousy and seems a wee bit bubbly, which could be a bacterial infection, a vet would need to rule that out though. With Apollo.. have you noticed the weird poops in him, only at times of a particular kibble or one with a specific ingredient, ie. chicken or beef perhaps? He could have something like IBD, or be in the starting stages of it. I'm gonna tag in some people with better experience on that subject, katt, Sherry, Heather.
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Post by Sherry on May 23, 2017 9:46:13 GMT -5
For whatever reason the photos aren't loading for me. You say they are still on soup after a month? How much eggshell powder are they getting in it?
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Post by Heather on May 23, 2017 13:00:15 GMT -5
That's a really weird colour, they're looking like eggy stools to me. What have they eaten and what is the consistency of the soupy ciao
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Post by katt on May 23, 2017 13:22:29 GMT -5
Welcome. You are already off to a great start by getting them on soupies. What were the last few meals before those poops you posted?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:44:56 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replies! I'm on my phone right now so I can't look at all the replies at once so I will try to answer all the questions I remember without looking lol They have never eaten an egg. Haven't gotten them to like it yet so. Her poops have gotten a little better and not that color anymore. They are both just eating raw soup right now no kibble. I havent noticed any specific protein that would cause Apollos poops to look like that. When I fed kibble I combined three different types but his poops have always been mucousy since day 1. I'm going to research IBD in ferrets after this post. I've been mixing 1/2 tsp of eggshell powder with the soup. At first for some reason I swear I read 3/4 to 1 tsp so I was putting a lot by accident:( Once I realized it was way too much I've been putting 1/2. I've also been putting less water in the soup so it's pretty thick. Still a puree but thick and they like it just as much Yes they've been on soup for a month now which is why I need help for the next step. I know feeding one protein should only be temporary so I want them eating chunks as soon as possible. They've been doing great on the soup and I've been cutting very very tiny pieces of chicken and mixing it. Sometimes they eat some and other times they just pick around them. What should I do about that? I've tried the scruff and stuff method but they put it in their mouths and run away to stash lol but never eat it. Should I order a few different types of grinds and see if they will eat it?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 16:44:51 GMT -5
oh and the raw soup is just chicken thigh meat, chicken liver, beef heart and eggshell powder. I wish they would just eat chunks already
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 17:16:39 GMT -5
also another question, I know about the liver toxicity if they are getting too much liver but in the soup they are eating an ounce of liver everyday or every two days so how much is too much?
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Post by Sherry on May 27, 2017 8:33:52 GMT -5
The amount would be 10% of the diet as total organ on a weekly basis. That 10% can be liver short term instead of 5% liver 5% other organ The soup is 10oz recipe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 11:21:27 GMT -5
IM SO HAPPY TO SAY THEY ARE NOW EATING BONES :-)) Next are organs. I do have a question though. I know that they are supposed to be a certain percent of their diet so if they eat an average of 6-8oz a day I should give them 3-4oz of heart a week? and 3-4oz of liver and another organ for another meal?
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Post by katt on Jun 28, 2017 19:50:10 GMT -5
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