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Post by marid on Mar 27, 2017 15:29:41 GMT -5
hi! Has anyone heard of SA Palais du Furet in Quebec, Canada? They have regular ferrets as well as half, semi, and full angora. If you know more about them please contact me in private  |
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Post by Heather on Mar 27, 2017 23:44:31 GMT -5
I just hit their webpage. I do not know this ferretry personally but I would question why if health is one of the priorities why they breed for neural crest, dilutes and DEWs. It's just a thought. Not judging just putting the question out there.
ciao
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Post by nancyl on Mar 28, 2017 16:03:05 GMT -5
Not to mention the issues associated with angoras.
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Post by marid on Mar 28, 2017 16:59:30 GMT -5
I just hit their webpage. I do not know this ferretry personally but I would question why if health is one of the priorities why they breed for neural crest, dilutes and DEWs. It's just a thought. Not judging just putting the question out there. ciao I k ow about the neural crests a bit and how they have many health problems. but could you tell me more about dilutes and DEWS? This is the only none farm ferret breeder in Quebec and probably Canada.... I can't afford doing the 16hours to Ohio...  I really like the dark coloured babies with dark noses. A bit like your profile pic actually! Are those ok? :$:$ |
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Post by marid on Mar 28, 2017 17:03:30 GMT -5
Not to mention the issues associated with angoras. EEEP whats wrong with angoras?? :$ i was considering one. I want a healthy baby. One that will live a healthy life (many here in Canada only live 2-3 years. People at my work told me they adopted one because "oh it'll die soon anyways"... I don't want this  ) |
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Post by Sherry on Mar 29, 2017 10:31:15 GMT -5
many people may disagree, but angoras are a genetic defect that someone decided would make a great fur coat and bred for them specifically. Full angora females are pretty much incapable of feeding their own young, so a surrogate mother is bred, kits killed off(for the mills), and the angora kits put to her.
Some breeders are trying to make a healthier angora by crossbreeding with normal ferrets, but I am unsure how they are doing as I don't follow them.
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Post by crazylady on Mar 29, 2017 11:34:34 GMT -5
Hi Sherry crossing an angora with a normal ferret works to a degree ( angora father normal mother ) she will be able to feed the young but you are not getting a true angora ( your only paying the price of one lol) as 50% of the genes are passed on from each parent I saw them years ago when they first started appearing they had health issues then and took a great dislike to being judged ( I took many bites from angoras lol) there jaws where either over shot or undershot and some suffered from recurring breathing difficulties ( think that was due to the noses filled with hair lol) some breeders are trying to breed healthier angoras but how far will they have to go from the original mill ferret is anyone's guess and what will they be called ? its going to be a hard task for them but we are all on a learning curve I personally will stick to my poleys and albinos lol take care bye for now
Bev
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Post by Heather on Mar 29, 2017 13:20:18 GMT -5
That little fellow on my profile is a kit from a breeding I did a couple of years ago, Radagast. I won't go into the angora thing, others have already stated some of the issues regarding those breedings. At the moment angoras are an "in" product and a lot of breeders are trying to get a part of the pie. I know that a couple of breeders are trying to create a better angora ferret....I wish them well and hope they can. I just have a whole hard time dealing with breeding on a defect that was created with the sole purpose to supply humans with a better fur collar from a fitch farm. I only breed for a basic ferret with the basic colours. True sables and albinos, nothing flashy.
You asked about DEWs, dilutes and fancy colours....Sherry do we still have the book of colours available as a download? This is a very light read, just an overview of the genetics regarding health issues associated with our love of fancy colours and markings. It's well worth reading if you're the least interested in ferret health and how colour and style comes into play in the general health of a ferret.
Just some thoughts and ideas
ciao
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Post by Sherry on Mar 30, 2017 9:58:03 GMT -5
drive.google.com/open?id=0B9Kx9_9PYCXic3c4WXhfajlhTG8 Let me know if you can open that. I've recently transferred to google drive from dropbox, and am hoping it is shareable. Looks like you need to download. Don't worry about the virus thing- it's clear. I've had it on the computer for a few years now.
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Post by thefluffybeasts on Jul 5, 2017 6:04:29 GMT -5
I know a few breeders in the UK who are doing a great job of breeding healthy babies, and one of my jills was from a ferretry there. Aside from her longer fur and slightly thinner skin, there is absolutely nothing healthwise to distinguish her from my other standards. Her nose is also almost perfect - there has been a few discussions amongst the breeders there linking the full angora jill's milk production to their genetic defects, i.e. angora nose. So most of the breeders I've spoken too are actually breeding for that perfect nose (basically standard nose), and interestingly, jills who have that nose that were bred have no trouble producing milk. It may be a coincidence, but in whichever case, most breeders as a rule of thumb only breed with semi angora jills with full angora hobs, so there will be full angoras in that litter, mixed with semis. |
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Post by Sherry on Jul 5, 2017 10:04:14 GMT -5
I'm with Heather. I will never understand why.
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