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Post by kattadragon on Apr 13, 2017 9:15:05 GMT -5
I think Crash and eddie are up to their "ideal" body weight. Crash's fur is getting much softer and fuller. I have noticed Eddie being a bit more layed back but when it is time to romp he gets a move on. All of my senior ferrets seem to be engaging the babys in play.
I have notice Jack is still trying to be incharge of Crash, as Crash will walk past Jack and She will hiss at him. They all get out in the house about three or four times a week for 3 ish hours. The rest of the week they are in their kennels or in their room. I have seen Jezzy, Bill, and Tiny sleeping with Crash and Eddie, but not Jack. I don't know if this is part of the Alpha thing but I am not pushing them to all stay in the same kennel. I do not believe there is, but is there a way I can help move this process along? Mabie if I connect several kennels with tubes so all ferrets can sleep where they want to with out me limiting if they want to (or not) sleep together. My only concern with this is that would trap the babie with Jack and they may still need a break from him. What are your thoughts?
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 13, 2017 10:27:17 GMT -5
17 APR 17
Monday AM: Liver, kidney, egg Monday PM: Chicken back
Tuesday AM: chicken, beef Tuesday PM: Quail
Wednesday AM: Heart Wednesday PM: Chicken necks
Thursday AM: Chicken, pork Thursday PM: Rabbit
Friday AM: Heart, liver, kidney, egg Friday PM: Cornish game hen
Saturday AM: Chicken, beef Saturday PM: Duck
Sunday AM: Chicken, pork Sunday PM: Rabbit
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 13, 2017 18:17:30 GMT -5
As long as no one is bleeding, pooping or peeing in fear, just let them work it out in their own time. So is everyone eating that menu? Anyone snubbing anything (bone in, organs, etc)? Also, that is a lot of egg. They really only need a full egg each once or twice a week (twice for sure during shedding season).
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 14, 2017 9:53:32 GMT -5
Jack and Bill did not eat much of their organs yesterday. Everyone is doing well with most of the meats. The only meats that get some snubbing is beef and internal organs (some times). I will back off the eggs a bit. Take it down to just the two internal organ meals. Would that be about right?
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 16, 2017 20:01:06 GMT -5
That should be fine
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 17, 2017 10:08:49 GMT -5
I will get weights tonight and see about mixing in some whole prey either this week or next week.
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 18, 2017 8:45:38 GMT -5
Weights: Jack: 1162/1395/1282/1287/1320/1315/1327/1350/1345/1260 Bill: 1134/1286/1179/1109/1137/1150/1186/1148/1120/1105 Tiny: 652/765/752/783/800/772/795/809/790/777 Jezzy: 603/957/796/710/729/744/765/775/754/742
Crash:778/828/844/860/860 Eddie: 977/1040/1078/1120/1130
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 18, 2017 8:52:10 GMT -5
Jack and bill ate some of their liver and kidney, but not as much as I expected. Jezzy, Tiny, Eddie, and Crash ate all of thier kidney liver. They did not eat much of their chicken necks last night, but it may have been they were asleep most of the night. they were all really hungry for breakfast. I left the chicken neck in their kennel and put the chicken and beef in a different dish.
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 21, 2017 14:25:31 GMT -5
Ok, at this point is there anything anyone is refusing? Do you have any question or things you are still unsure about? If no one is having any issues and you are feeling confident then I think we can safely start the graduation process for you and your gang.
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 23, 2017 16:31:10 GMT -5
Sorry it has been a bit since I logged in. My computer at work has not been able to make a connection with the log in recently for some reason.
I think we are ready to graduate. If I have any more questions I'm sure I can find something on the forum or just ask for help. Everyone on this forum has been so awesome!!
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 24, 2017 11:35:10 GMT -5
Ok, the first step is to quiz your knowledge. You are free to look up the answers but try to answer based on what you have learned to date.
1. List 2 good sources of taurine.
2. Your ferret is constipated and his stools are very hard and dry. What is this a sign of and how can you adjust to fix it?
3. How many meals a week should be organs, and of those meals how much needs to be liver?
4. Is it a good idea to mix muscle meat, bone in and organs all in one meal. Explain why.
5. How much and how often can eggs be fed?
6. Give 2 examples each of muscle meat, edible bones, and organs.
7. How much food on average should a male and female ferret each consume per DAY?
8. How much can a ferret's appetite and weight change seasonally?
9. What is a Normal Fasting Blood Glucose level?
10. About how long is a ferret's digestion time?
11. Are leaner meats better for your ferret or fattier meats?
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 25, 2017 23:57:56 GMT -5
All answers are just from present knowledge.
1. List 2 good sources of taurine. Heart and tounge
2. Your ferret is constipated and his stools are very hard and dry. What is this a sign of and how can you adjust to fix it? Too much calcium. Reduce any added calcium in diet or simply reduce the amount of bone in.
3. How many meals a week should be organs, and of those meals how much needs to be liver? Two, one meal is 1/2 liver the other is 1/4 liver
4. Is it a good idea to mix muscle meat, bone in and organs all in one meal. Explain why. I believe this is because it is a whole prey Neal and that is the most balanced meal a ferret can have.
5. How much and how often can eggs be fed? one egg each once a week, two fro shedding season
6. Give 2 examples each of muscle meat, edible bones, and organs. Muscle meat: beef and port. Edible bone in: Quail and Cornish game hen. Organs: Kidney and spleen.
7. How much food on average should a male and female ferret each consume per DAY? Male is 2.5-3ounces per day, female is .75-1.5 ounces per day.
8. How much can a ferret's appetite and weight change seasonally? By half
9. What is a Normal Fasting Blood Glucose level? I have absolutely no idea
10. About how long is a ferret's digestion time? 3 hours
11. Are leaner meats better for your ferret or fattier meats? fattier
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 26, 2017 8:48:10 GMT -5
Ok, you did pretty well. Just a few corrections: 4. This is actually a bit of a trick question. It's up to you whether you want to feed this way as long as all the meat in the meal is from the same animal. It is not a good idea to mix meat types in meals because if your ferret develops a food sensitivity it becomes a nightmare trying to figure out what is setting them off. Also, if you prep their food in advance in bulk, you now have a ton of food you may not be able to use. 6. I don't think "port" count's as a muscle meat 7. Male 2 to 4+ oz, Female 1 to 2 oz are average amounts 9. Normal ferrets have a fasting blood glucose level of between 80-120mg/dl. Anything under 60-70 is very likely evidence that the pet has insulinoma. If you could plan and post your menu for next week, I'll get Heather to have a look at it and get you graduated!! Great Job!!
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 26, 2017 10:36:39 GMT -5
I will get a copy of it posted tonight, or tomorrow. I have it, I just need 5 minutes to post it and their weights. I have them on a note book at home.
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Post by kattadragon on Apr 27, 2017 0:10:23 GMT -5
Weights: Jack: 1162/1395/1282/1287/1320/1315/1327/1350/1345/1260/1241 Bill: 1134/1286/1179/1109/1137/1150/1186/1148/1120/1105/1112 Tiny: 652/765/752/783/800/772/795/809/790/777/776 Jezzy: 603/957/796/710/729/744/765/775/754/742/720
Crash:778/828/844/860/860/846 Eddie: 977/1040/1078/1120/1130/1123
Monday AM: Liver, kidney, egg Monday PM: Chicken back
Tuesday AM: chicken, beef Tuesday PM: Quail/ whole prey quail
Wednesday AM: Heart Wednesday PM: Chicken necks
Thursday AM: Chicken, pork Thursday PM: Duck
Friday AM: Heart, liver, kidney, egg Friday PM: Cornish game hen
Saturday AM: Chicken, beef Saturday PM: Rabbit/ whole prey rabbit
Sunday AM: Chicken, pork Sunday PM: Duck
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