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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2011 12:05:43 GMT -5
Most will have very black, really wet, almost loose stools with straight organ meat. It's because most organs are really blood rich. Particularly liver.
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Post by katt on Feb 22, 2011 18:30:16 GMT -5
Most will have very black, really wet, almost loose stools with straight organ meat. It's because most organs are really blood rich. Particularly liver. So the mucousy-runniness of the stools is ok, even though they did not eat just organs? If so then that is GREAT GREAT news! Does t he same thing follow for heart? How then do I tell if he is sensitive to them?
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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2011 20:04:10 GMT -5
Mine have those stools for up to about 12 hours after organ meats. And yes, they'll have that with heart as well.
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Post by katt on Feb 22, 2011 20:22:33 GMT -5
Mine have those stools for up to about 12 hours after organ meats. And yes, they'll have that with heart as well. Ohh yaaaay!!!!!!!!!!! See, I had heard that dark poops were normal, over and over, but my concern has always been the mucous content of the poops. *HUGE sigh of relief* I can get my babies on a balanced diet again! Yaaaaaayyy!!!! Now...if they are still pooping slime after like 24 hours of having had it, should I be concerned at that point? Or how else do I tell if Koda is sensitive to it versus just normal organ/heart poops? I am so excited you have no idea. That is the best news I have been given all month. Not sure why no one has mentioned the runniness of organ poops before. Thanks Sherry! ;D:-* ;D
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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2011 21:28:48 GMT -5
24 hours would be a concern, yes. Did you take a look at that picture from the poop chart I posted from FH? The link is earlier in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 23:43:15 GMT -5
I mix organs in with other foods to avoid the "slimes" My kids get occasional mucus poops even if the organ meats are fed with other stuff. I think all ferrets do. The organ meats fed alone create nasty poops that fly through the gut at the speed of light! . I think ferrets absorb more nutrients when organs are mixed in with other meats and bone. This is why I feed organs daily alone with other stuff. If I fed an entire meal of organ meats alone, I'd have to hose down the room - LOL!!! -jennifer
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Post by katt on Feb 23, 2011 1:58:06 GMT -5
What if they get the runny poops consistently whether or not hte organ is mixed with other things?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 2:00:40 GMT -5
I thought, if there is no bone/eggshell, that runny stools are to be expected?
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Post by katt on Feb 23, 2011 3:59:26 GMT -5
But If I give say, organs with bone-in meats, they have sloppy poops. Ganted *thinks* I haven't given bone-in meats plus organ in a while because of Koda's chicken sensitivity...so you may be right Jackie... *Hmmmmm.....*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 10:09:13 GMT -5
Ferret digestion id not all that great to being with. The endocrine and digestive stytem seem to be weal points. That being said, you will probably notice the following on raw diet: 1. In general, stools are softer/wetter than when on kibble. 2. Stools with a higher mucus content will happen occasionally for a couple of days. This helps with management of bacterial load within the gut and/or the nature of what has been eaten. Mucus n the stool results from irritation of the colon. I would peculate that my kids get a poorly formed stool that has some mucus content approx. once a month per ferret. These are not total slime, but they tend to be a smaller stool that's poorly formed . 3. even if you feed a correct balance of meat, organ, bone, stools will be somewhat loose relative to whole prey. whole prey includes fur/feathers, and other less-digestible bulk, which helps to form a more natural stool. 4. Even with whole prey,you will see some variation in stool. 5. Color depends on what has been eaten. For these reasons, adding low-carb ground vegetables, pumpkin, edible clays, coarsely ground flax seed, etc. helps with poop quality. Remember that hormones are running higher this time of year, Ferts tend to be a little more aggressive with their social interaction, shedding is going on, and life is stressful for our little brats this time of year....So, poops tend to be less consistent right now. Also, this description is consistent with what I have noticed with wildlife, We need to remember that kibble recipe have been designed to make stools easy to pick, so the grains help to provide a lot of bulk that would otherwise be provided by fur, feathers, etc. The "kibble poop" is not a good representation of stool for a naturally fed carnivore -jennifer -
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