I am sorry for not answering for so long. I was not able to come on the forum. A while ago there was some maintenance br proboards and I tought this is it ... Than I saw that people on FB were actualy being able to log in, so I have to delete all my browser history and cookies. arrrgggh ... So mad I didn't try this before ...
Ok, lets go back. - poop: it is probably from to much fat or a lot of connective tissue. - quiz:
1. List 3 organs aside from liver. Kidney, spleen, brain
Exactly! It is very important that the organ part of the diet consist of 1/2 of liver and the other 1/2 must be other organs. As organs counts all organs that do execret something (hormones, enzymes, ...). Except stomach/gizzard which, also execrete enzymes and stomach acid, but in their structure there are more muscles (for all the contraction) than anything else. Beside kidney, spleen, liver, brain there are also testicles, pancreas, thymus, thyroid gland and also green tripe would count in here. Rumen, from which tripe comes from is first of stomachs in ruminants and has a bit different role than the other two. It is not a "real" stomach with stomach acids and so. The structure is not really "organish", but the content adds to it's value. There are lots of different (unharmful) microbes that are good. They do not exactly work as probitics in carnivores - since they are in the rumen of ruminnants to help digest plant matter, but have different benefits. But, most of ferrets wion't touch it because of the (awfull) smell. There is one more exception - the heart. In anatomy of course counts as an organ, but in raw feeding does not. It is a muscle (again, with added value - it contains a lot of taurine).
2. List 3 sources of edible bone. Chicken wings, rabbit, whole quail
Yup, you are right! As edible counts all chicken, all quail, all rabbit (tough some ferrets, especialy newbies might have problem with the skull, even tough you would half it), turkey necks and first part of the wing, some geese and duck's bone as well. Bones of swine, ruminants, horses, deer are in most cases to big. Some ferrets might chew trough lamb ribs and tail and swine tail, but these are not first bones that come in to mind when talking about edible bones.
3. Are gizzards a muscle meat, or an organ? 3. Muscle
you are right. I explained above why.
You did great! Congrats!!!
So how are we doing atm - shall we try to make sort of frankenprey menue with the meat you have?
If we have 14 meals per week (2 meals daily), we need: - 7-9 meals of "BONE IN MEAT" meal - 3-4 meals of MUSCLE MEAT (min 1 and 1/2 of these should be heart) - 1 and 1/2 meals of ORGANS (1/2 of these liver, the other half other organs)
As BONE IN MEAT counts any edible bone As MUSCLE MEAT counts all meat, without bone and HEART We defined organs in previous post
Here is an example menue: Monday am: edible bone in meat Monday pm: edible bone in meat (or muscle)
Tuesday am: edible bone in meat Tuesday pm: muscle meat
Wednesday am: edible bone in meat Wednesday pm: heart
Thursday am: edible bone in meat Thursday pm: edible bone in meat (or muscle)
Friday am: edible bone in meat Friday pm: ½ heart + ¼ liver + ¼ other organ
Saturday am: edible bone in meat Saturday pm: muscle meat
Sunday am: edible bone in meat Sunday pm: ½ liver + ½ other organ
I know they don't (yet) really eat bone, we will slowly start to introduce it in few meals per week, as other bone in meat meals we will still use meat chunks with bone meal.
So, try to pop in the ingredients you have (and write what you think they eat and what they won't) and than we will balance and "tune" it together.
Hey. It looks almost perfect ! Just some little fine tunning is needed.
CGH - which parts? Meat? Whole grind?
We need one more heart meal - replace on of the boneless beef melas with it. And we need at least 2 more meals with bones - add bonemeal to 2 of boneless meals. We will than observe the poops and adjust bone(meal)s according to them.