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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 6:42:59 GMT -5
Does anyone have any information on ovary sparing neuters? Is that even a thing for ferrets. I'm back again because I've started college and adore playing with their 10 ferrets. I've almost convinced my parents into allowing me 2 and have been talking to them about getting a vasectomised Hob with an entire Jill but was wondering if ovary sparing is an option?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 6:44:07 GMT -5
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Post by Sherry on Oct 14, 2016 9:55:37 GMT -5
The problem with that is you would still risk aplastic anemia unless you implant. And vas hobs are NOT cheap, especially proven ones
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Post by Heather on Oct 14, 2016 10:56:59 GMT -5
It's difficult to find a vet willing to do a vas hob much less an ovary sparing surgery. I've never heard of this being done but I suppose it's possible. You would still need a hob or a vas hob to take her out (remember they both are going to react and smell the same way when in rut).
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Post by maja01 on Oct 14, 2016 13:28:41 GMT -5
No, ovary sparing is not an option. From the reasons above.
It is like a V-hob, just for jills. She can't have kits, but everything else is the same as in whole jills ... Aplastic anemia if not taken out of heat, included.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 2:46:56 GMT -5
It's difficult to find a vet willing to do a vas hob much less an ovary sparing surgery. I've never heard of this being done but I suppose it's possible. You would still need a hob or a vas hob to take her out (remember they both are going to react and smell the same way when in rut). ciao Right, thank you! I've got a local vet willing to do a vasectomy for not that bad a price (he's done them before) but I wanted to get the jist of how an ovary soaring neuture would work. Would it be possible to combine the two together? I am aware there's quite a high failure rate as the vas deferens have a habit of healing in the first 2 years so would it be possible to have an ovary spared neutered Jill with a vasectomised hob? I just want to do everything possible to avoid adrenal or hormone related problems. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 3:34:43 GMT -5
Technically you could combine a hysterectomy (as opposed to ovario-hysterectomy) alongside a vasectomised jill. I have been musing on the same question as it would mean entire hobs could safely live with hysterectomised jills, but have never come across anyone performing this surgery.
My only caveat would be that one vas hob living with only one jill could be very hard on the jill .... at least in the first few years - they often do calm as they get a bit older and 'grow into' their hormones but in their first year or two hobs are usually massively overzealous and will not leave jills alone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 10:55:39 GMT -5
Technically you could combine a hysterectomy (as opposed to ovario-hysterectomy) alongside a vasectomised jill. I have been musing on the same question as it would mean entire hobs could safely live with hysterectomised jills, but have never come across anyone performing this surgery. My only caveat would be that one vas hob living with only one jill could be very hard on the jill .... at least in the first few years - they often do calm as they get a bit older and 'grow into' their hormones but in their first year or two hobs are usually massively overzealous and will not leave jills alone. Would you suggest I get two jills then? Just to ensure the hob doesn't hassle one or the other? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 11:24:10 GMT -5
In my own experience, you need at least 3 jills with an enthusiastic vas hob, and even then they often need to be separated for periods in the hobs' first year, and sometimes in his second year. Often they calm after that. I have a 3 year old entire hob here living with a jill full time and they are fine together. Barley my vas hob spent a good month or two this year living on his own as he was too overzealous even for my group of 6 jills! So, in short, it can work with just one jill but be prepared to have extra accommodation and separate them until he gets to 2-3 years old. For this reason, I would advise having at least 2 jills if you are prepared to separate so that the jill at least has company while the hob is sorting himself out  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 12:29:41 GMT -5
Awesome! Thank you very much! I was planning on getting one of these  Which you can separate from top and bottom. It's the same height as me  I've only just managed to convince my parents to get 2 so I'll give them some extra nudging on a third. Seeing as I would most likely go ahead with the ovary sparing neuter, because I have a vet that would be willing to try it, in combination with a vasectomy I'll do that then. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 14:36:58 GMT -5
In my own experience, you need at least 3 jills with an enthusiastic vas hob, and even then they often need to be separated for periods in the hobs' first year, and sometimes in his second year. Often they calm after that. I have a 3 year old entire hob here living with a jill full time and they are fine together. Barley my vas hob spent a good month or two this year living on his own as he was too overzealous even for my group of 6 jills! So, in short, it can work with just one jill but be prepared to have extra accommodation and separate them until he gets to 2-3 years old. For this reason, I would advise having at least 2 jills if you are prepared to separate so that the jill at least has company while the hob is sorting himself out Just to get the jist of it, is it okay to just have the one jill but keep her separate or should I get 2 jills so they can keep themselves company? |
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Post by crazylady on Oct 15, 2016 15:55:38 GMT -5
Remember if you keep them indoors there is a higher risk of adrenal and insulinoma due to the lighting issues ask your vet when he does the surgery on your hob to send the bits to a lab to check that it is tube that has been taken and not muscle ( that happened to me once ) most vets who do the ops are very good I have only had one accident is god knows how many years and remember your ferrets will smell very strongly in breeding season ! especially a hob in rutt having him fixed does not fix the smell lol good luck take care bye for now
Bev
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 10:22:41 GMT -5
Remember if you keep them indoors there is a higher risk of adrenal and insulinoma due to the lighting issues ask your vet when he does the surgery on your hob to send the bits to a lab to check that it is tube that has been taken and not muscle ( that happened to me once ) most vets who do the ops are very good I have only had one accident is god knows how many years and remember your ferrets will smell very strongly in breeding season ! especially a hob in rutt having him fixed does not fix the smell lol good luck take care bye for now Bev They'll be in my room where I keep reptiles (out the way) so I can control daylight hours (they're on a timer) Thank you for all your suggestions!! I've been researching this entire time I've been away (since about january) but you lot are always teaching me more! Thank you |
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