I separated all the food into baggies. 4 oz. each. I cleaned the bowl I was weighing it in in between separating the food also so I wouldn't cross contaminate the food (chicken, duck, pheasant, etc...) in case one is allergic to one food. Max went nuts over the rabbit cubes! YAY! He won't be hard. Chloe. Eh. Maybe she just wasn't hungry.
Last Edit: Sept 29, 2016 11:10:51 GMT -5 by rachelc
Post by FireAngel on Sept 29, 2016 21:26:17 GMT -5
That is awesome! Now the work begins!!!!! (giggle) The next step would be to add slivders or the grinds into everyones Stella and Chewys and see if they eat it. If they do not you will want to hand feed or spoon feed them until they are eating the slivers on their own also. Ok so to get pictures here you need something like photobucket, you upload the pics there and then copy thier links in your post here. Here is a thread on how to do it, posting pictures Here is todays pm, So my question is, what does the vet say about the carafate? The smell could be because we added the rabbit. Chances are anytime we add or change a protien on him he will have some bad poops but they should get better. I'm going to tag katt here just to make sure I'm correct and see if she has anything to add that I may have missed.
So I gave Max and Chloe (my two private bred ferrets) ground chicken in a bowl and they ate it! They actually went for that over the S&C. 😀 I'm about to test the others now. I'll let you know the outcome...I'm going to put chicken in Mojo and Zoe's and Rabbit in Roscoe and Toby's. Oh! I'm taking Zoe to the vet. I'm thinking she may have insulinoma. I noticed yesterday she was kind of spaced out and I sat on the ground and when she walked to me her back legs gave out a few times. She's four so she's right at that age.
Last Edit: Sept 30, 2016 8:17:07 GMT -5 by rachelc
Okay, so Roscoe ate his with no problems. So did Mojo and Zoe. The only one I had to spoon feed was the one I said would eat anything! Toby. I gave him a spoonful. He ate it. Then he wanted to eat from the bowl. Easy enough! Haha! I wish it would go this easy always. Haha! I put about a Tbsp of chicken in Mojo and Zoe's food and about a Tbsp of rabbit in Roscoe and Toby's food. Also, I gave Max and Chloe 4 oz. of ground chicken. It has bones and organs in it.
Post by FireAngel on Sept 30, 2016 20:33:23 GMT -5
Wow! Nice! :boing: So they ate the meat without any S&C? When you bring Zoe to the vets make sure she has been fasting for 4 hours before they do any blood work. Insuloma sucks. Hope she does not have it. Roscoes poops alright today? Ask the vet about carafate for him tomorrow too please.
Oh! Carafate 15 minutes before eating. Pred after eating. Max and Chloe ate their meat tonight. Added the chicken to Mojo and Zoe's S&C and they ate and added the rabbit to Roscoe and Toby's S&C and they ate. Roscoe's poop was good today! Yay! I took pics. I will try and figure out how to get the pic on here later. I put less duck in his food this morning and more rabbit. So he had a little S&C duck, S&C rabbit, and a Tbsp of ground rabbit meat. Max and Chloe are private bred ferrets and they were fed raw before I got them. She gave them a little bit of everything.
Last Edit: Sept 30, 2016 20:47:45 GMT -5 by rachelc
It sounds like you are making good progress. Exciting that they went for the raw over the S&C. Honestly specifically the poop pics on the most recent post with the paper towel look like the FD is coming out just exactly as it went in. For whatever reason it zipped right through. The sudden change in diet, change in protein, and increase in moisture (a good thing!), stress, etc are all possible contributors. I wouldn't worry too much about that poop unless it continues to look and more so SMELL like that. IBD is a guessing game. Everything takes trial and error bc every ferret is SO different. Some need very, very slow changes. Some just need to avoid certain proteins. Some do better with never staying on one protein too long (e.g. diff protein every meal). Some need medications to stay under control. If you are ever in a bad flare, you may need meds just long enough to knock it down so they can get back to baseline. Keep in mind too that smell does not always = bacteria. It CAN be an indicator of bacteria so when in doubt if you think there is an infection or bacterial overgrowth needing meds then by all means get them. But other things can cause bad smell too - including excess fat in the poop, and poorly foods (partially digested meat can smell really rancid). To me the FD poop just looks to be poorly digested.
Post by FireAngel on Sept 30, 2016 21:14:57 GMT -5
If Roscoe is eating the rabbit. Try going to just the rabbit. As long as he doesn't have a severe reaction to that we can do that for a couple of weeks to see how he handles it before we switch to another protein. Also if you are up to it, which you seem to be doing at least most of this already, a food/activity log would be a good idea. Something like this, Food ate - any different activity done (went outside or to the vets etc) - what poop looked like today - His activity level - Medications given - Supplements given -
Did the vet say how long to use the carafate for this round? Is he on any antibiotics also right now?
Sorry if the above pic isn't very clear. Roscoe kept trying to bite me! Little stinker! He's a biter. It was normal, though, but today...nope. Poor little guy. I'm supposed to leave him on the Carafate for two weeks. I didn't mention the raw feeding to the vet because she is very against it. I got a lecture for giving them fdr treats. :/ She would blame this on the food. He isn't on antibiotics at the moment but I did pick some up just in case. Bioxin.
He ate the same thing. A little bit of S&C duck, more S&C rabbit (more than the duck), and about a Tbsp...maybe a little more...of ground rabbit. Made it into a soup. Log idea is good. Would I need to post it here daily?