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Any one know good Angora or panda breeders, i contacted 2 breeders with no luck atm

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There will be breeders at that IL show that could probably direct you where to go for an angora.
Are you familiar with the health issues associated with angoras?
I was thinking of doing the drive and going to the show since I've never been to one.

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i actually am not familiar? and yeah this will be my first year going, a breeder told me that you have to fill out applications to adopt them before hand at the show.

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I don't want to start an angora argument, but angoras are genetic defects. From what I understand, they have breathing problems, often times they can't nurse their young, they don't have an undercoat. They would not have survived in the wild.
Information could have changed over the years, but last I knew they were a genetic mess.

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Full Angora females typically don't produce enough milk to raise their kits to weaning age. Good breeders won't breed full Angora females for this reason although I have heard of some Full Angora females having successfully raised litters in Europe, although I'm not sure how true that is.

Good breeders are working towards improving the genetic diversity, health and nose of the full Angora by out-crossing them with standard ferrets. At least here in Europe there are many years and generations of Angoras with pedigrees online so you're able to trace health issues, inbreeding and the general longevity of Angora lines, which is typically same as standard ferrets.

Full Angoras don't have an undercoat, so they may get cooler quicker but people do keep them outside in the UK as well as inside. Their coats require little to no maintenance at all though.
Semi or 3/4 angora ferrets have a long coat and a normal nose, they are also able to raise litters. Half, 1/2 and part or 1/4 angora ferrets are more closer in appearance to standard ferrets but again they have a normal nose and can raise litters.

As mentioned full Angora ferrets have nose deformities, sometimes extra nose folds and, or a hairy nose. Extremes may cause issues but it's not something I've seen. Good breeders are breeding away from extreme nose deformities and are breeding towards a more normal nose in full Angoras. Some breeders full Angoras also appear to have a normal nose too.
The Angoras I've known and met behave exactly the same as standard ferrets, although they can be larger than standard ferrets, they are equally as lovely

If you really want a full Angora or a Semi-3/4 Angora, Semi's still have a long coat but a normal nose. Find a good, ethical breeder. They should know their lines, they should be breeding towards improving the genetic diversity, health and nose of Angoras rather than just wanting to line their pockets. They will also be breeding for temperamentally sound ferrets, just like if you were looking for a standard ferret breeder

Another thing to consider, Panda ferrets can be deaf. Some breeders won't purposely breed Pandas or Blazes for this reason.

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I love my deaf ferets. Some colors/patterns are linked to waardy syndrome, but non-hearing ferrets are not any less healthier than hearing ferrets.

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Thanks for the info guys

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Unfortunately, waardy/deafies are often much shorter lived which is why breeders (reputable...remember you asked for that) often will not breed for them. Deafies are usually products of a neural crest disorder which means they're more susceptible to various lymphomas and cancers and immunity issues. They're already damaged. This is not a guarantee but for the most part you will rarely see a waardy/deafy reach the older ages. Pandas are one of the shortest lived of the specifically marked ferrets, one of the reasons why breeders (reputable) will not breed for these.
I would if your heart is absolutely set on it stick to the angoras. No one has been able to convince me that breeding a genetic flaw has any benefits but if you were going to set your heart on a genetic anomaly then this is the safer one if you go to the best angora breeders. They understand the shortcomings of their breed choice and try to work their best to offset their shortcomings.
ciao

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Thanks for elaborating Heather!
I understand why certain colors and patterns aren't bred, but felt it was an attack on just being deaf (I'm deaf in one ear and I train deaf animals) until you explained it further.

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Are there certain colors/patterns that are healthier than others?

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Stay as close to plain dark sable as you can. At least 5 generation of dark sable. No black self, no black roan or black roan mitt. Even the sable is not a guarantee but you'll have a better shot. Plain albino for several generations should be the same.

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Thank you. I'm a sucker for sables since that's what my first two ferrets were.