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Post by Corvidophile on Mar 20, 2016 9:43:20 GMT -5
Klarissa Personally I've got tonsil stones, so they're always on my mind, lol. Human pearls made of plaque, NEVER crush one. Or maybe do and compare it to Angus's poor breath!
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Post by Klarissa on Mar 21, 2016 11:49:06 GMT -5
Angus smells SO much better! We think it is a combination of things.
I had them switch to grinds that are straight meat (no veg/fruit). I had them cut out chicken. We've increased our diligence in preventing the dogs from eating horse poop. (Yes, you read that right. For whatever reason dogs LOVE horse poop. Its like crack to them. Ew). I've brought them some delish raw meat bones to nom on.
Without a doubt, he has a problem with carbs. He snuck a horse poopsicle this weekend, and his smell flared up big time.
So we have no idea what caused this whole mess. His diet must play role, since I could make him wreak by letting him have a carb. Whether the tooth played a role at all... Idk.
I'm just happy he smells better, so we can hug him again.
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Post by Klarissa on Apr 7, 2016 12:19:09 GMT -5
He smelled better for a handful of days. And now he is back to stinking.
And the vet is still talking out her butt. I'm researching new vets.
So, to date he has had a CBC, thyroid panel, liver test, dental cleaning, and extraction. Swapped from kibble, to raw. No chicken.
The vet wanted to switch him to (craptastic, POS) canned food. She still thinks it's the diet. Even though 1) the smell started when he was on kibble 2) he has been on 3-4 different kibbles, and dozen different proteins.
And if that didn't work in a week, she wanted to scope & biopsy him. Which has me fuming, angry tears. He is just 3 years old, and has been under 7 times.
My dad & I asked her about yeast, and she kept trying to change topics. She had nothing to refute with so she gave us 10 days of ketoconazole. That started Saturday & so far no improvement.
Since his tooth extraction he has started cough & foaming during exercise & at night trying to go to bed. I'm worried that he may have bacterial heart problems from the extraction. His mouth was a festering cesspool, and they never prescribed any antibiotics.
We've doubled him from eating 1lbs a day, to 2 lbs a day, and he continues to lose weight. He coughs a lot... And the vet still doesn't seem to be taking our concerns seriously.
I'm at my wits end.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 12:32:46 GMT -5
I would have went to a new vet a long time ago. She seems like a dimwitt trying to get you for all your money.
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Post by Klarissa on Apr 7, 2016 16:56:55 GMT -5
She's the owner of the clinic. She kicked our regular vet off the case, though he was no smarter, he was more honest.
Any vet he goes to in this city is going to latch onto the raw diet. I know this for sure because my former boss (raw food retailer) had me call every vet in the city & ask for their opinions on raw. Not a single vet in favor of it. Lots of vets accused me of supporting people killing their pets.
Switching won't help, it could be a massive step backwards at this point. I'm *telling* them I want a CBC & liver, and kidney function tests redone. I'm hoping the ketoconazole starts working.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 17:25:04 GMT -5
Hmm that really sucks both of the vets I have been to so far was for my raw diet. Cross my fingers but I also moved to a different state so we will see. I really wonder how some people became vets...
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Post by Klarissa on Apr 7, 2016 18:01:34 GMT -5
That's what I'm going to school for - veterinary medicine. Vets are book smart, but it appears many lack application skills as soon as a case isn't cut & dry. My dad just called me to say he brought Angus to the vet because the poor pup was pacing all night long. He saw my regular vet, instead of the clinic owner. Angus' full body stink has lessened, but his breath still wreaks. But our vet saw this as a good sign, and prescribed another 30 days of ketoconazole. I got my parents a supplement to add to his food that will help with the malnutrition. He was losing so much weight because yeast reduces the stomach pH, and the vet had put him on an acid reducer. The very low stomach acidity impairs the GI tracts ability to digest nutrients. Poor Angus But it was a suggestion by someone on here that it could be systemic yeast infection . We had previously dismissed it because he doesn't have more common signs of yeast infection, but once I started researching systemic yeast infections I had no doubt. Hopefully this is it. He is the sweetest boy. I brought him to work with my on St.Patty's day.
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Post by Klarissa on Apr 7, 2016 18:05:26 GMT -5
bitbyter thanks for the systemic yeast infection idea! Once I researched it, I knew (in my unprofessional opinion) that it was systemic yeast infection. He is on ketoconazole, and the vet agreed to extend his 10 day script for another 30 days based on his vet trip today.
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Post by Klarissa on Apr 7, 2016 19:37:35 GMT -5
Slowly but surely, he is improving. His body doesn't radiate stink anymore, but his mouth still wreaks. However, systemic yeast can takes weeks to months to fully get rid of.
He will be going in every few weeks for awhile. The vet is footing the bill except for meds.
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Post by bitbyter on Apr 7, 2016 19:44:11 GMT -5
Your welcome. Hopefully he continues to improve.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 22:11:12 GMT -5
I am going to school for veterinary medicine as well. I whole heartedly agree with you on vets lacking many skills. Some are people skills and other are only going by opinions and to me an opinion is jack Sh** compared to actual fact or by the book. I plan on going a more extensive way to become a vet and that's go to school for a vet assistant and work in the industry and work my way up through there. I would like to specialize as an exotic vet.
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