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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 15:44:28 GMT -5
This is a group many ferret owners are part of so I would just like to bring it to the attention of anyone following that group that it is led by some VERY anti semitic people. A nasty post was made which included some horrible comments, and when I contacted the admins they blocked me from the group and said it was my fault for being offended. Let me state right now that this is antisemitism and hate speech. If you are not Jewish, or affected by the Holocaust, you do not have the right to decide what is offensive to the people who are. I mention this because it is what the admins of this group tried to do. They are wrong. The original post was made very crudely, and with intent to offend. Even if you do not understand how that is hurtful, look at the last few comments made. They are blatantly making fun of those offended, which happen to (mainly) be Jewish people. They are making fun of genocide. The murder of millions of Jews, Romani, queer, disabled, and other various POC. The cruel and inhumane treatment of my people, my family, my grandmother. This is antisemitism, and I 100% recommend staying away from this group, as they will do nothing against members who break the ToS, and will actually make fun of their own members for feeling uncomfortable with situations like this. Receipts (I'm not removing names because no anti semitic person deserves that respect): They immediately removed me from the group and also blocked me from accessing the page at all. They are a group with good information and resources, but run by awful people (with a lot of members being the same), please do not support them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:12:57 GMT -5
Wow!
Sometimes, just when I think humans could get no lower ... they always manage to outdo themselves.
I'm so sorry you were treated like that, it's disgusting. I don't see how anything like that is funny. But then, I have been bullied by all of my OH's friends for years because I was the only one to speak out and say it was disgusting when they were going to get AGM t-shirts printed saying 'Duct tape ... turns "no no no" into "mmm mmm mmm" ' I don't care. Stand up for what's right and speak out when it's right to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:26:17 GMT -5
Wow! Sometimes, just when I think humans could get no lower ... they always manage to outdo themselves. I'm so sorry you were treated like that, it's disgusting. I don't see how anything like that is funny. But then, I have been bullied by all of my OH's friends for years because I was the only one to speak out and say it was disgusting when they were going to get AGM t-shirts printed saying 'Duct tape ... turns "no no no" into "mmm mmm mmm" ' I don't care. Stand up for what's right and speak out when it's right to. Thank you. The matter at hand is very, very close to me because my grandmother was liberated from a camp, and told me many stories about what she went through. Thank you for taking my feelings seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:33:36 GMT -5
I'm so sorry to hear that. Your grandmother must be a very strong woman to have picked up the pieces of her life. I can only imagine what she went through.
I'm not jewish and don't have any family that went through the horrors of the holocaust. But it makes my heart heavy and turns my stomach to think of it. I know enough that I could never find it amusing.
I don't understand how people can lack empathy, and not stop and think for a second about what they are actually laughing at. Surely they would see that only a very sick person would find it amusing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:39:26 GMT -5
I saw this post. I was disgusted. There is nothing "Hilarious" about that post and anyone who thought it was are a sad bunch of people. I actually pity them. ;n; I was going to comment, but ended up preoccupied at the time. Thank goodness its gone. In all honesty I'm not 100% impressed with that group. I rarely even check it and pretty much never post to it. They are helpful in some aspects. Some people are friendly, some also teach good breeding and euthanasia ethics and are non judgemental also, but there are those few people who make me feel so reluctant to seek any help there. *
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Post by bitbyter on Feb 7, 2016 17:00:03 GMT -5
The do have good knowledge but their sense of humor and lack of taste leaves much to be desired sometimes. They were being sarcastic and did not expect people to take it seriously but it was waaaay over the line. Lost a lot of respect for how they handled that. They have this weird rule where nothing is ever deleted from the page (unless by an admin). Personally that should have been deleted the minute it was put up.
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Post by Heather on Feb 7, 2016 17:05:25 GMT -5
Well, at least I know one space to avoid. I'm surprised that they didn't get reported to FB. I've seen things reported for a lot less. I didn't get through half of the rhetoric before becoming totally disgusted and wondering what the human race is actually coming to ciao
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Post by bitbyter on Feb 7, 2016 17:10:54 GMT -5
It has been reported Heather. FB rarely actually does anything about it though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 17:11:20 GMT -5
I saw this post. I was disgusted. There is nothing "Hilarious" about that post and anyone who thought it was are a sad bunch of people. I actually pity them. ;n; I was going to comment, but ended up preoccupied at the time. Thank goodness its gone. In all honesty I'm not 100% impressed with that group. I rarely even check it and pretty much never post to it. They are helpful in some aspects. Some people are friendly, some also teach good breeding and euthanasia ethics and are non judgemental also, but there are those few people who make me feel so reluctant to seek any help there. [img src="http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/ .png" src="http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/ .png"]* I would recommend not continuing to support the page. The do have good knowledge but their sense of humor and lack of taste leaves much to be desired sometimes. They were being sarcastic and did not expect people to take it seriously but it was waaaay over the line. Lost a lot of respect for how they handled that. They have this weird rule where nothing is ever deleted from the page (unless by an admin). Personally that should have been deleted the minute it was put up. You have paraphrased my thoughts completely. There are good resources and some helpful people, but to think the admin would behave in such a manner disgusts me. Well, at least I know one space to avoid. I'm surprised that they didn't get reported to FB. I've seen things reported for a lot less. I didn't get through half of the rhetoric before becoming totally disgusted and wondering what the human race is actually coming to ciao The funny thing is, I did report it. I've reported multiple anti semitic things, and I always get the response that it "doesn't violate their ToS" - despite their ToS CLEARLY stating they will not accept religious hate speech or persecution. Facebook does not care about the Jewish community.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 17:16:19 GMT -5
I may not be religious but that is d*mn awful of them to say such things about what happeneded in the past > I never joined Facebook because a load of crap was happening at school because of rumours from Facebook and now that I've left and been at college nearly a year, I was considering it and now seeing what has just happened has put me off it.
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Post by bitbyter on Feb 7, 2016 17:56:57 GMT -5
Being horrified over the attempted genocide of a people really doesn't have anything to do with religion and more about being a sane human being. Unfortunately, as time goes by it has become just another part of history for most people. It's hard for it to actually MEAN something to people who don't have a direct link to it. That being said, cultural norms should have made them handle it differently. I'm going to have a hard time recommending the group to anyone in the future and I'm pretty disgusted with most of the admins at the moment.
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Post by msav on Feb 7, 2016 23:01:40 GMT -5
That is why independent Forums (like this one) are as far as I go with social media,
Too many inconsiderate people out there who think they can say whatever they want with no repercussions.
I don't have thick enough skin to be on social media.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 10:27:37 GMT -5
I must say, I am Jewish, and My family was greatly effected by the Holocaust, and that whole post is offensive! I'm normally one with a great sense of humor (Including Jew Jokes ), but this... Wow.
I think, Im going to go say a few things to a few people.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 8, 2016 12:27:01 GMT -5
That was unreal. I am not Jewish, but the comments especially were very disturbing. Shows me exactly why Trump is the lead Republican. I will be honest. I came on this thread with the intent to remove it as we do not allow bashing other groups. But given the content others do need to be warned about them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 18:45:42 GMT -5
That was unreal. I am not Jewish, but the comments especially were very disturbing. Shows me exactly why Trump is the lead Republican. I will be honest. I came on this thread with the intent to remove it as we do not allow bashing other groups. But given the content others do need to be warned about them. This is not a thread bashing them, it is me reaching out to members of the Jewish community to warn against groups that allow, and even have the mods participate in, anti semitic acts. On top of that, the only "bashing" happening is against those affected by the Holocaust. You should always speak out against bigotry. Besides, I feel we should not be allowed to share the experiences we have with people our community interact with, whether they are good or bad.
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