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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 15:27:49 GMT -5
Hiya, (wow it's been a while since I've posted here!) Y boys are on a franken prey diet at the moment and all is well except I hate how their poos are sometimes jelly like and then other times fine, so I thought I might switch to whole prey since the fur makes their poops better (?) either way I think whole prey would be easier than defrosting different types of meats and bone etc since I'm now in college, I can get hold of adult mice, rats and possibly rabbits, my boys are eating 200g each per day, could someone plan a menu for me please? I also heard the odd nice beef meal every now and then and extra organs and heart sometimes to add a red meat, and make sure they both get enough organs. They get one meal a day, if someone could make me a mon-Sunday meal menu if that would be ok? Just need a motivation and confidence boost with this transition to be shown its not as scary as it seems ahaha
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Post by Heather on Nov 9, 2015 21:33:30 GMT -5
It would be better for you to create what you thought would be a good menu and then we will see what you know. One of the biggest difficulties is not knowing how to create a menu, allowing someone else to create a menu for you means you never get to understand just how your little ones should eat. It also assumes that we know what you're feeding and what you're substituting. A prey menu is really easy as it's naturally balanced. Give it a try
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 4:29:16 GMT -5
It would be better for you to create what you thought would be a good menu and then we will see what you know. One of the biggest difficulties is not knowing how to create a menu, allowing someone else to create a menu for you means you never get to understand just how your little ones should eat. It also assumes that we know what you're feeding and what you're substituting. A prey menu is really easy as it's naturally balanced. Give it a try ciao Ok I'll try mon: adult mice and adult rats tues: rabbit and adult mice wed: adult rats and extra organs thurs: rabbit and minced beef fri: quail and small chickens (not chicks but not full sized) sat: rabbit and adult mice sun: quail and small chickens my boys at the moment since I can't get hearts from anywhere have taurine powder (high quality no bulking agents) what would I do with this? Just their usual powder on the one beef meal? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 6:17:33 GMT -5
Will let Heather and others comment on your meal planning other than if I serve quail, i just do that all day . Like if I serve guinea pig,I serve that all day. It is a lot easier. Because mine r not great mice eaters yet, I will serve mice for breakfast then rat for supper. If they would eat mice real well, that is what they would get for the day:)
Have you thought about ordering a small bulk of frozen duck hearts from somewhere? (shipping:// )
I order online to get hearts. Bay duck brand is pretty popular here in the states. You might find a brand selling in your stores then google and see if you can get some hearts. From Pekin Paradise, I can get bulk gizzard, hearts and tongues and frames, and of course whole duck.
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Post by Heather on Nov 10, 2015 22:52:02 GMT -5
What is the strength of your taurine powder? This will help with dosages.
You've got the minimum required proteins. Are your quail adults or juveniles?
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 5:32:46 GMT -5
In 1993, about 5,000–6,000 tons of taurine were produced for commercial purposes; 50% for pet food manufacture and 50% in pharmaceutical applications.[20] As of 2010, China alone has more than 40 manufacturers of taurine. Most of these enterprises employ the ethanolamine method to produce a total annual production of about 3,000 tons.[21] Wikipedia
This is what I do not like about taurine powder
I do not trust China's food.
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Post by Sherry on Nov 11, 2015 12:44:39 GMT -5
Beef tongue helps a lot with taurine, since it is very high in it. For the powder, use 500mg capsules, one per ferret per day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 14:52:43 GMT -5
What is the strength of your taurine powder? This will help with dosages. You've got the minimum required proteins. Are your quail adults or juveniles? ciao I use the Swanson branded taurine 500mg capsules |
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Post by Heather on Nov 11, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -5
Sherry's got your answer. 1 500mg capsule per ferret per day. I don't use it so it's not information that I'm quick with but I knew that others had this one covered.
Your menu....if the quail is adult, it's fine, if they're chicks and the chickens you're using are juveniles then you may want to change the one meal of quail and chicken to something more mature
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 9:57:46 GMT -5
Sherry's got your answer. 1 500mg capsule per ferret per day. I don't use it so it's not information that I'm quick with but I knew that others had this one covered. Your menu....if the quail is adult, it's fine, if they're chicks and the chickens you're using are juveniles then you may want to change the one meal of quail and chicken to something more mature ciao Okie dokie then, and they are like just matured chickens and quails |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 12:22:40 GMT -5
Sherry's got your answer. 1 500mg capsule per ferret per day. I don't use it so it's not information that I'm quick with but I knew that others had this one covered. Your menu....if the quail is adult, it's fine, if they're chicks and the chickens you're using are juveniles then you may want to change the one meal of quail and chicken to something more mature ciao Hiya, just enhanced my menu considering what is available etc and sorted out weights etc, how is this: Monday: Sunday’s rabbit (1kg) Tuesday: 1x Quail (200g) + ½x Minced beef (200g) Wednesday: 1x Chicken (200g) 1x Rat (200g) Thursday: 1x Quail (200g) 1x Rat (200g) Friday: 1x Chicken (200g) + ½x Minced beef (200g) Saturday: 1x Quail (200g) 1x Rat (200g) Sunday: 1x Rabbit (1kg) |
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Post by Sherry on Nov 17, 2015 10:36:35 GMT -5
Looks good  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 12:31:50 GMT -5
Is that for 2 ferrets? Do they eat all the 200g per day or is there left over, mine eat about half that ...
I'm worried mine are being underfed now ...
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Post by Heather on Nov 17, 2015 14:05:06 GMT -5
It seems a bit steep in amount for the rabbit ....1 kg rabbit will feed all my guys and I have 12. The rest is reasonable as 200 grams = 7 oz approx. That would be the amount that would be fed to 2 males in one day. The one thing to consider...is the 2 kg rabbit dressed. That's a lot dressed but not so much if it's weighed with it's jacket and it's insides in. There's a good amount of weight involved in the coat and the guts, neither which a ferret will eat.
ciao
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Post by Sherry on Nov 18, 2015 10:42:47 GMT -5
I'd assumed it was the same 1kg rabbit spread over two days?
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