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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 16:28:31 GMT -5
Cut a few pork slivers for their next meal. If they take it ok, go ahead and give a whole meal of pork, but if they don't seem to want it, mix some pork slivers with some chicken chunks and give it to them that way. Then for the next meal, increase the amount of pork and decrease the chicken. This is a new protein so don't worry if their poops are a little funky.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 16:31:21 GMT -5
We cross-posted. I'm not sure what you have left now, lol. I thought you would have just the drummette sections of all the wings left.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 16:44:34 GMT -5
I have the parts that bbq chicken wings are made with. The wing tip piece I have left has a really thick bone that I didn't notice with the others. Could be a mutation for all I know, or Marty could be full (he's been a little piggy today). Did I give them the right part? I tried smashing it a bit and broke the bone but Marty still didn't wanna eat it, though he ate the thinner part of the tip just fine. I'll get the pork ready in a couple hours.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 16:49:12 GMT -5
It sounds like you might have what are called wingettes, with only 2 sections. The wing tip has been removed from those. The wing tip should be pointy with just a small bit of bone in it. Whatever you gave them is fine, though, as long as they ate it. Are these CHICKEN wings we're talking about or CGH wings?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 16:51:48 GMT -5
CGH wings, and should I give Marty the rest of the tip later or save it to split between them?
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 16:56:09 GMT -5
Hmmm, then I don't know what you have. It doesn't matter as long as they eat it. Does Marty need to eat again later? If he does, then yes, give him the rest of it. If he doesn't, just save it for another meal. Are you still feeding them separately?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 17:00:53 GMT -5
I'm feeding them together when its just meat, but separate for heart/liver/wing tips. And Marty's learned that when he wants food he can bang his food bowl around, so they've already eaten 6 oz. I might give them another half ounce if he's hungry again, but I feel like he's over eating, as his tummy feels bigger underneath his fluffy fur. Very jiggly.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 19:08:14 GMT -5
If Marty is hungry, let him eat. They tend to eat A LOT when first switching, like they're trying to make up for lost time. He'll slow down eventually and settle in at 3-5 oz per day. What is his weight now? If you think he's getting fat, post another dangling picture. How do they do with the liver? And I still need a goal menu from you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 19:27:12 GMT -5
Yea, I just don't want to put 4 ounces in and have 3 sit in there overnight uneaten. I'll get their weights and pictures tomorrow, my mom's borrowing the scale. They eat the liver fine, but they definitely prefer their dried liver treats... I think its purely because the treats are treats.
I completely forgot! Just to be sure, how many ounces should each meal be?
Sun AM: Chicken liver, beef kidney if I can find it. I need options for if I can't find a reliable source for it- would liver from a different animal work? Sun PM: Cornish Game Hen
Mon AM: Chicken thighs with bone meal Mon PM: Chicken necks with bone meal if they are deboned
Tues AM: Chicken heart Tues PM: Pork with bone meal or CGH
Wed AM: Pork Wed PM: CGH
Thur AM: Chicken heart and liver, beef kidney Thur PM: CGH
Fri AM: Chicken thigh with bone meal Fri PM: Chicken necks with bone meal if deboned
Sat AM: Pork Sat PM: CGH
The second organ will probably change... I really hope a butcher will give me organs.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 19:38:37 GMT -5
If the only organ you can get is liver, then just feed liver. Keep looking for other organs and get them when you can. There is a supplement called Pet G.O. that you can use to give the extra nutrients.
Your menu needs more actual bone rather than supplementing with bone meal. Bone meal is great for emergencies, but it's best to not rely on it consistently. They need the micronutrients from the bones that are not in the bone meal because of the processing. They also need the dental benefits of chewing real bones. I'd also like to see at least one more protein in the rotation, even if it's only every other week. Check around and see what other options you have. Some ideas... turkey, beef, quail, duck, lamb, frog, fish. Some of these are more expensive than others. You can use the cheaper meats as your staples and rotate the expensive ones. I feed 2 more expensive meals per week and try to make them different each week. That way, they get the variety and my wallet doesn't cry too much.
Also, where are getting your chicken necks that they are deboned? I have never in my life seen a deboned chicken neck! And with your chicken thighs, with a little help from a hammer, they may be able to eat those bones once they build up some strength in their jaws. I smack them once or twice before I serve them and mine have no trouble crunching through them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 19:57:41 GMT -5
I might go with beef or fish, as its easy to find. And would it be ok to give them CGH that much? I haven't found any non-weightbearing bones from bigger animals in the store that haven't had the meat taken off. The store I'm able to go to most often doesn't have a fresh meat section, and all of their chicken other than legs are deboned. The Tyson chicken necks with hearts have no bones and no skin.
All of this looking and not finding what I need is so stressful. And I'm panicky about how I bought a huge thing of bone meal from Amazon (because I couldn't find it at the store) and I probably won't use it for a very long time, if ever.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 20:34:37 GMT -5
Can you post a picture of the necks? The only packages I've ever seen that include hearts are gizzards.
Ideally, any particular protein should only be served 3 times a week. Honestly, I'm pretty sure a menu as heavy on CGH as yours is right now will not be approved. But don't despair, we'll get it fixed. What about chicken wings? Can you get those? Although CGH is technically just a young chicken, for our purposes they are considered different proteins. If you can pm me with your location, our resident 'expert shopper' @poncesmom might be able to locate some meat sources for you. She is good at finding Asian markets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 20:49:09 GMT -5
Can you post a picture of the necks? The only packages I've ever seen that include hearts are gizzards. Ideally, any particular protein should only be served 3 times a week. Honestly, I'm pretty sure a menu as heavy on CGH as yours is right now will not be approved. But don't despair, we'll get it fixed. What about chicken wings? Can you get those? Although CGH is technically just a young chicken, for our purposes they are considered different proteins. If you can pm me with your location, our resident 'expert shopper' @poncesmom might be able to locate some meat sources for you. She is good at finding Asian markets. I'll be glad to help. Tyson sells a package of hearts and gizzards. You are lucky to get one or two hearts in that package.
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Post by gfountain on Aug 3, 2015 20:55:48 GMT -5
Stef, she is having a hard time finding bone in meats as well as organs besides liver.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 21:44:59 GMT -5
Yea, I live in Roy, WA... The necks are just gizzards, but they're labelled as necks.
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