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Post by Awaiting Abyss on Apr 5, 2015 15:39:53 GMT -5
Are there any good dog forums that has good raw feeding sections? And/or wolfdog sections or forum? I've been feeding my wolfdog raw for a week now (I fed him TOTW kibble for a while because that was what he was on before he came to me, and I wanted to feed him what he was familiar with until he got settled in), and though I've researched a lot I would still like a forum to join.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 1:01:24 GMT -5
The Raw Feeding Community Facebook page is a great place to learn. Be aware that only roughly 10% of dogs advertised as part woof are actually part wolf. Theres a very little chance of owning a wolf/dog mix. Here is a good article on it- realwolfdogs.tumblr.com/roughguidetowolfdogcontentI feed my dog raw, he gets one meal a day and 3% of his weight. He eats 3 bone in meals per week and we'be been doing raw for him for 2 months but aren't on organs yet, you have to take it much slower with dogs. You do chicken or whatever protein you want for 2 weeks then slowly introduse another one for a couple days mix in the new then feed that for 2 weeks then do it again, once you have 3 proteins down you can very very slowly start introducing organs. For my dog every time I feed organs he vomits up brown liquid 12 hours later so we are still working on it. Some dogs have explosive diarrhea when starting raw and some do totally fine, you start with bone meats so poops don't get loose. You'll have to get the right percentages of meat, bone and organ. My dog weighs 7 lbs and eats 3 ounces a day, so 21 ounces a week and 1 ounce liver, 1 ounce kidney and 1 ounce heart per week once his stomach can handle it. It's 5% liver, 5% other organ and 5% heart with the rest being muscle meats and bone in meals. They typically need 3-6 bone meals weekly. They also usually poop less, my dog poops like once every 2 or 3 days. Some poop once or twice a day, just depends on your dog. Some dogs may need 2% of their weight while others may need up to 5% or more to mantain, it depends on their activity level and metabolism. Be sure to weigh regularly so you know how much you need to adjust the food intake, rarely is it a good idea to let your dog self regulate as most will over eat or eat so much they get fat, if I let my dog self regulate he'd be obese and probably vomit after eating because of the amount he would want to consume. So it's best to feed according to percent of weight and adjust based on their weight. |
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Post by RedSky on Apr 6, 2015 7:56:56 GMT -5
Hi, glad to hear you are switching over. There are some great groups on facebook and some fantastic forums. I was a member of dogsey.com when I decided to switch my dog. He was always a sickly dog, after having parvo as a youngster. Dogsey.com doesn't seem as active as it did, with many of the old members leaving but there are still some great members on and some great raw feeding advice.
When I switched my dog over I was still hesitant about getting the balance right, so I kept him on dry food for one meal a day and did one of raw for a while. Once I was happy I knew the balance I went for it.
Many will switch their dogs over slowly, adding in one protein at a time. I did that, and all seemed well. I'm not sure if his allergies developed over time or if he always had them but when we had an allergy screening done years after switching him it turned out he was allergic to chicken, beef, fish, venison (hardly ever had anyway) and numerous other none meat things. Before this he ate them all, loved whole fish the most. But he would scratch at his mouth and make his gums bleed. Cutting it all out didn't really make a difference, we never did figure out what was causing the problem.
I added in organs as I added in that protein, I fed chicken livers the first week with the chicken legs. I added in lamb next so fed lamb liver and kidney, then beef ect.
I didn't feed an organ meal though, I chopped up the organs, froze into ice cube trays (topped up with water to make them come out easier) and added it to his bone in meals. I weighed at first to make sure he was getting the right amount, then it just became the norm. Made his bone in poos softer for him to pass, and made my life easier not to have to pick up after an organ meal...
Oh and be careful, many dogs gulp down their meals at first, rather than crushing the bones up and ripping up the meat. If they swallow something too big they will often bring it back up. I fed chicken legs at first and held them (Cookie was fine with anyone near his food) so he had to bite/rip chunks off.
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Post by Awaiting Abyss on Apr 6, 2015 23:39:15 GMT -5
The Raw Feeding Community Facebook page is a great place to learn. Be aware that only roughly 10% of dogs advertised as part woof are actually part wolf. Theres a very little chance of owning a wolf/dog mix. Here is a good article on it- realwolfdogs.tumblr.com/roughguidetowolfdogcontentI feed my dog raw, he gets one meal a day and 3% of his weight. He eats 3 bone in meals per week and we'be been doing raw for him for 2 months but aren't on organs yet, you have to take it much slower with dogs. You do chicken or whatever protein you want for 2 weeks then slowly introduse another one for a couple days mix in the new then feed that for 2 weeks then do it again, once you have 3 proteins down you can very very slowly start introducing organs. For my dog every time I feed organs he vomits up brown liquid 12 hours later so we are still working on it. Some dogs have explosive diarrhea when starting raw and some do totally fine, you start with bone meats so poops don't get loose. You'll have to get the right percentages of meat, bone and organ. My dog weighs 7 lbs and eats 3 ounces a day, so 21 ounces a week and 1 ounce liver, 1 ounce kidney and 1 ounce heart per week once his stomach can handle it. It's 5% liver, 5% other organ and 5% heart with the rest being muscle meats and bone in meals. They typically need 3-6 bone meals weekly. They also usually poop less, my dog poops like once every 2 or 3 days. Some poop once or twice a day, just depends on your dog. Some dogs may need 2% of their weight while others may need up to 5% or more to mantain, it depends on their activity level and metabolism. Be sure to weigh regularly so you know how much you need to adjust the food intake, rarely is it a good idea to let your dog self regulate as most will over eat or eat so much they get fat, if I let my dog self regulate he'd be obese and probably vomit after eating because of the amount he would want to consume. So it's best to feed according to percent of weight and adjust based on their weight. Thanks. I've been researching wolfdogs for many, many years. I've had a low content in the past. My current wolfdog is a high content, and I have absolutely no doubt about that. He is more wolf than dog. He was rescued previously. I had planned to get a wolfdog puppy from a one of the "good" breeders on that list that's on that tumblr blog, but I gave a home to this boy instead. (I haven't officially named him yet... we've been calling him by his name that he already had) I'm not new to raw feeding dogs. I've done research on it, and I've been feeding my malamute half raw and half kibble (as in some meals kibble and some raw) since I got her. The wolfdog had runny poops when I got him and while I was feeding him kibble. They didn't firm up until I started feeding him raw. Now he is pooping about every other day. So far I've fed him chicken thigh/leg quarters, beef liver, ground beef, pork chops, tilapia, and pig heart. He did not like the beef liver. I think he hated it about as much as I do. He's very underweight. The people who had him before he was rescued either didn't feed him correctly or didn't feed him much of anything. He's still very boney, but he has gained some weight since starting full raw a week ago. And... I... don't have a facebook. I sort of have one, but I never check it. I only made it to keep in touch with my malamute's breeder.  |
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Post by Awaiting Abyss on Apr 6, 2015 23:45:21 GMT -5
Oh and be careful, many dogs gulp down their meals at first, rather than crushing the bones up and ripping up the meat. If they swallow something too big they will often bring it back up. I fed chicken legs at first and held them (Cookie was fine with anyone near his food) so he had to bite/rip chunks off. Yeah, he's getting much better at the gulping. We've been training him to "wait." We have him on a leash and only let him reach his bowl when he's calmed down. At tonight's meal, he actually sat down and then when he started eating he took his time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 21:12:58 GMT -5
Feed mine raw and half kibble. Use no rhyme or reason to my feeding--just give duck carcasses,tough pieces of beef heart,chicken gizzards,chicken wings, expired lamb liver and kidneys. He is a 60 pd hound from H3ll  ---he has chewed the hose in half,tore up window screens on porch,strung roll of roofing paper all over back yard, dug up my lemon grass--pulled up plastic that is underneath my lava rock areas--just waiting to see what he come up with next >  |
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Post by Awaiting Abyss on Apr 7, 2015 22:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 7:31:14 GMT -5
Mom is a golden doodle and pop is a saddleback beagle = ugly dog. He has a coat like a retriever and a beard and wild spikey hairs on forehead  The mom is ours and the beagle is the neighbor's dog who dug under the fence. Fence worked for 10 years. She had a c-section because she was 10 years old . 1000 dollars , which included a spaying. |
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