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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 13:16:41 GMT -5
I hope I don't blow up the thread by posting so much First, I finally have poop pictures for all of them. First is Juliet, this is last night and her poops often look like this- Then Marcie, this is last night they've looked like this a few times- Then Caillou who finally pooped this morning at around 11, his don't look like this a lot, usually they're a bit more loose and darker- And I couldn't help it, I let Caillou and Marcie play for like 25 minutes. I've never, ever seen Caillou more happy. He keeps wagging his tail, like he's done it about 100 times every time he sees her. They've been war dancing and dooking and they're playing in the tunnel now, Caillou has tried to grab her neck twice but I pulled them apart, I know they need to assert dominance but I'm not supposed to let them yet. (SHHH, don't tell Belinda!) They're so happy and they are having SO much fun right now. Caillou completely loves her and is having the time of his life, Juliet has never played like her and I'm really happy that he is so excited about having a play mate. I don't think her and Jules will hit it off very well, Marcie is too energeic for her so I'll take it really slow and be very careful introducing them. Pictures!!!! Probably my favorite one, he has his mouth on her but didn't pin her down
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 18:07:18 GMT -5
Those are such cute pictures. Not the Poop pictures, lol but the playing pictures. I posted to your playing thread, but I'd let them keep playing. Caillou is having the time of his life, who knew he was a tail wagger.
I think it's just that Jules is a Senior now and Caillou needs to play with someone who is his own age. I kept Mika and Roamy separate for two months and he still got ECE. They've already played now and I won't tell Belinda. (giggle)
The poops look rather normal to me, let's see what Katt says.
I'll bet Caillou will have a bigger appetite now. He's exercising and burning energy. Keep an eye out and maybe offer some more in his bowl. Are you leaving food with him overnight and during the daytime?
I'm so happy for all of you. Little Marcie has been a good addition and I know she has her Forever Home. Give your Mom some extra hugs, she's been a good Mom. Just look at what a good job she has done with you. (dance)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 19:07:06 GMT -5
I'm letting them keep playing, they played again for about an hour, if they're having fun then I don't see a reason to keep them apart. I just tell Belinda I do what she says to do, no reason in upsetting her, she's helped me a lot and I just let her believe what she wants. She's already upset that I re-named Marcie. She calls her, "Marcie AKA Artemis"... :face: Caillou would only wag his tail when he got super, crazily excited, like when Juliet started feeling better and played with him for like 2 hours, he wagged his tail the entire time, but he only does it when he is playing with another ferret and loves them. I leave the leftovers in their cage, it's just that Caillou only sometimes goes back to eat them and Juliet has never, ever touched anything I left in there unless I sat her in front of it and spooned it to her first. Mostly I can't afford to waste so much food, in all honesty. I've been chewed out about money every time I need more meat, but I'm 14, I can't legally get a job anyway, not much I can do about money. So I try and keep it to where it lasts, but they are still full and not hungry. But you know, Caillou won't finish his food on his own, he has to have me spoon feed him usually about half an ounce, or else he won't eat the rest. Same with Juliet, if it were up to them they would only eat 1 ounce to 1.5 ounces tops, I always sit and help them when they stop. Even Marcie does it now, she doesn't finish on her own. I do think Marcie will be with us forever, she fits right in. Caillou can barely keep up with her, I thought he was energetic, compared to Marcie he's a lazy old man. She's not quite his own age, she's 1yrs and he's 5yrs.. LOL. Heather confirmed it for me, I posted her teeth pictures on the aging thread, definitely under two, she has the slightest, ittiest bit of yellowing on her back teeth, but it's barely even noticeable unless you really look, and there is no clarity at all. Juliet on the other hand has clarity over half way up and her teeth are missing, chipped, and dirty... poor thing, she's so unhealthy. Think I need to increase the pred a little, she's getting kinda tired again. Will slowly increase it, I'm already up to 1 1/2 ml of pediapred, have been doing a little more and more until we got up there, to keep her steady and not to get her all hyped up and then crashed down by increasing too much too fast. I'll tell my mom what you said, it always makes her laugh and be happy when I do, letting her know how much me and you and everyone else appreciates her. Not many moms could be able to put up with a kid like me, I'm quite expensive and highly opinionated, nothing like her that's for sure . And not many would probably let me keep adopting ferrets after all these bills we've had, she knows how much they mean to me, they're my life, and they are my future career. Oh and Belinda asked me if I wanted to keep Marcie, she asked if I did and said it was alright with her. I told her it was up to my mom, because of the bills, and she said she absolutely understood about the bills, and to let her know within the next couple of weeks. She still doesn't know they're on raw, and I don't plan on telling her unless she asks, no point in getting a lecture or making her upset about it, which it will, she thinks it's literally a death penalty, or at least she acts like it. I've had a pretty rough day, in the same 5 minutes I managed to step in poop and pee :puke:, get a huge bruise on my head (from the FN as I was trying to grab Marcie out from under it) and gash open my finger somehow. katt can I give CGH to Caillou? I won't give it to him if you're not on by dinner time, just to be safe. I do want to see how Marcie takes to bone. Now when she gets pieces of meat in her mouth she does go and spit them out, but she actually picks them back up and eats them she may be on frankenprey before Jules and Cai, which is fine with me, it'll be cheaper.. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 21:27:13 GMT -5
I'm too excited to wait, Marcie is doing SO good! Tonight for dinner I did 1 ounce of soup each and .4 ounces of CGH wing slivers, well I prepared it for all 3 of them and then right before I was gonna feed Cai I remembered he couldn't have it so I picked all the pieces out and put it in Marcie's bowl. Caillou and Juliet ate like normal, trying to avoid the slivers as much as ferretly possible and being picky, as soon as I put the bowl up to Marcie she doesn't even sniff it before she eats it. She ate many slivers, she spit 2-3 of them out but only the ones that had bigger bone pieces, she ate several bone pieces though so long as they were small. Her bowl was 1.8 ounces and .8 ounces was slivers, and I weighed when she was done eating and there was .8 ounces left, there is still a few .oz of soup binding the slivers together, but she ate more slivers than Cai and Jules ever ate in one sitting. She ate pieces about the length and even some the width of a nickel or larger. She loved the skin too. She is moving up very quickly and I'm very proud, I'm sure she will be on the frankenprey menu weeks before Cai and Jules, they're doing well also, but they're so picky compared to her.
So in just what, 2 days? She has gotten where it took mine 2 months to get to. I love her, I love her so much! It was so exciting seeing her eat like that!
And also, gotta brag on Jules, I fed her and then gave her pred to her and she went back to sleep with still about 0.5 - 0.8 ounces of just slivers in the bowl, I left the room (she was sleeping when I left) and came back about 5 minutes later and she was eating the slivers all by herself! She has NEVER went back to eat leftovers, and especially not when they were slivers!! Yay!!!!! I left Marcie's leftovers in her cage too, and Juliet didn't eat much of the slivers just a few but there is still some left in there, hopefully they'll eat a little more. Caillou was being a butt and didn't even want his soup, I had to hold him and shove the spoon right up to his face for him to eat just 1 ounce, he didn't want it and wasn't happy about it. After this he went and pooped in my floor too. Grrr... he can be super sweet or a complete pain.. lol
Daily log-
What they ate each meal: In the AM they all ate pork soup at pudding consistency In the PM they the same pork soup but with CGH wing slivers
Roughly how much they ate each meal: Caillou- 2 ounces in the AM 1 ounce in PM Juliet- 2 ounces in the AM 0.8 ounce in PM Marcie- 2 ounces in the AM 1 ounce in PM
Any additional supplements: Caillou got .13 ml of Baytril 100 Juliet got .1 ½ ml of pediapred
What their poops are like: Caillou- long, formed, dark brown Juliet- very small, a little runny, light brown Marcie- darker, a lot of times green and seedy
What their energy is like: Caillou- played for several hours with Marcie today, so better. Juliet- really lazy today, didn’t want to play at all. Marcie- crazy as usual, 6+ hours of play time today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 20:16:46 GMT -5
That's wonderful progress and I'm so pleased with all of you. (dance)
I just got home and my silly computer keys are sticking. I read your post and responded and then the computer hung up. Let me post to you in the morning. I'll spray the keys and let it sit overnight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 20:30:05 GMT -5
I offered her a CGH wing this afternoon and she bit on it a lot and chewed it a little several times for about 10 minutes off and on, even heard a bone crunch, but she didn't actually eat any of it, thinks it's just too hard for her and she doesn't have her ripping apart skills learned I did however cut a piece of it off about nickel size and she ate it, two pieces of it. She's moving along quickly, going to offer bigger slivers tonight for dinner and see how it goes, and more CGH. I'm not sure if she ate any of the leftovers from last night, don't think she did, if she did it was only 1-2 little pieces. She doesn't think twice before putting something in her mouth, she eats everything I put in front of her or at least attempts to eat. Caillou is being so weird though, he follows me around and rubs on my feet wanting cuddles, and climbs up my bed and into my lap several times a day for me to pet him. He won't play with me, just wants cuddles. Hes in my lap right now sleeping, he used to wouldn't dare sit still long enough for me to even clip his nails, I'm keep hoping it's just the medicine he's on. He's still chewing, off and on, i put a blanket in his yesterday and he was gnawing on it within seconds, and goes for my carpet too, not as much though. Im making more soup in a minute and will post how it goes with the everything, anxious to see how Marcie reacts to the bigger pieces. Will read ya tomorrow Stef
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Post by katt on Oct 29, 2014 4:47:04 GMT -5
By all means please do "blow up" the thread with posts. Haha More info is always helpful. I just have a harder time keeping up with the longer multiple posts bc of my schedule - BUT that's part of why there's 2 of us! Do not give Caillou anything but pork for now. Why are you waning to brush their teeth with oil and eggshell?? Did I miss something there? Move Marcie along as quick as she will allow. Sounds like the bigger slivers weren't accepted yet so keep her on this size for a few meals then push it up again Don't be hard on yourself with the other 2 moving slower they are going at a great pace. Every ferret is different and for Marcie to be moving so Fast is unusual if anything. You are doing a great job! And they are soooo cute! I'm glad Caillou found the friend he needed - I think it was meant to be. Maybe the new friend will help burn off some of his energy and reduce his chewing too! How are his gums doing? Chewing?
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Post by katt on Oct 29, 2014 4:56:41 GMT -5
Haag for the game hen! It will take some time for her to learn how to properly chew and eat the bones as well as to develop the jaw and neck muscles but keep offering it! She is doing so great! Thus is fine for your weekly post, as long as it's once a week whatever day is easiest for you is fine. Oh and poops looked good! I think I answered the main Q's? If I missed one let me know!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 11:08:30 GMT -5
I wanted to brush Caillou's gums because of his gingivitis, I can't afford a teeth cleaning, and I thought that would help sooth his gums a little. Marcie was being sucharged a pa in about the slivers last night. She isn't ready for bone unless they're tiny, so I'll keep giving her just meat slivers. She didn't want any of them last night, hopefully she'll be better tonight. I just feel like everyone else's ferrets are going along so much faster then mine. But I'm very proud of them, they're my babies and I enjoy watching them be happy as they eat their thin soup and avoid the slivers as if they are poison. Caillou gums look great, completely normal. Still chewing, he's made it into habit I'm sure. He only will grab my carpet maybe once during play time but nothing else, and only chews on fabric if it's in his cage. I was a little mad at my vet, I was thinking if he would've gave him a stronger medicine aft er the first 20 days he wouldn't have made it to a habit... ugh but I try not to blame him, he did what he thought was best. I had to go get more meds at the vet because they messed up and dint give me enough. They charged me $3 for 5 extra syringes, freaking kidding me? They have those out the wazoo I've seen the stock room. And they made me pay for extra medicine evet though it was their fault. Oh well. The tech who was there said she felt so sorry for me because of how sick they all have been... yeah, I get pity ftom strangers.. lol Sorry for the long multiple posts I like to share pretty much everything that goes on with them, proud mama here haha. Since Cai can't have anything but pork I'll give him pork slivers so he can work his way up in size with them. One more question, for you or Stef, I'm going to go either tomorrow or Friday for the pork heart and liver if they have it, what else should I look for? Sorry I didn't post their log for yesterday, I had a little bit of a breakdown, the stress got to me and I had to take a break from ferrets and raw meat for the night. I'll post it when I get home later today.
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Post by katt on Oct 29, 2014 12:34:01 GMT -5
I wanted to brush Caillou's gums because of his gingivitis, I can't afford a teeth cleaning, and I thought that would help sooth his gums a little.No I support the tooth cleaning - I recommended it a few times. My Q is why with oil and eggshell? Did someone recommend that? I have never heard of that, I wouldn't think oil would be the best cleaner.... They make dog and cat toothpaste. You should be able to get a small tube of kitty toothpaste at the pet store for relatively inexpensive. These ones don't look bad and come with a toothbrush: www.petsmart.com/cat/dental-care/arm-hammer-advanced-pet-care-cat-toothpaste-brush-set-zid36-5191065/cat-36-catid-200005?_t=pfm%3Dcategorywww.petsmart.com/cat/dental-care/hc-petrodex-cat-dental-kit-zid36-5190866/cat-36-catid-200005?_t=pfm%3DcategoryThis is everyone's favorite, but it's a few more bucks ($13) www.oxyfresh.com/pet/pet-gel-healing-cream.aspThis one is $5 www.amazon.com/Enzadent-Pet-Toothpaste-Poultry-Flavor/dp/B002TN33NW/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1414603175&sr=8-11&keywords=cat+toothpaste(ingredients on this page: www.drugs.com/vet/enzadent-enzymatic-toothpaste.html)Read the ingredients as some of them (not the ones linked!) have melaleuca (tea tree) oil which is toxic to them. Marcie was being sucharged a pa in about the slivers last night. She isn't ready for bone unless they're tiny, so I'll keep giving her just meat slivers. She didn't want any of them last night, hopefully she'll be better tonight. They'll have on and off days just like us. I just feel like everyone else's ferrets are going along so much faster then mine. But I'm very proud of them, they're my babies and I enjoy watching them be happy as they eat their thin soup and avoid the slivers as if they are poison.That's an illusion. Everyone's ferrets move at different paces and yours are actually moving along quite quickly - you're just excited and impatient. haha I know you are eager to get them there, but I promise they are moving along at a great pace. It can be bad to push them too hard bc if you move too fast, they won't recognize the food and will not eat enough. We've actually had issues with people saying "he's eating chunks!" and stop the soup bc they are all excited when the ferret is not yet eating the chunks well enough (or at all - some pick it up and spit it out and just look like they were eating) and the ferret drops weight and ends up sick. That's why we added the weekly weigh-ins as part of the program. We only have the information that you give us, so if you say they are eating something, we have to believe that they are eating something. Anyways point is, it is good to push them but it's bad to push them too fast. Your ferrets are moving along at a great pace. I've had switches that took much longer to get this far. Caillou gums look great, completely normal. Still chewing, he's made it into habit I'm sure. He only will grab my carpet maybe once during play time but nothing else, and only chews on fabric if it's in his cage. I was a little mad at my vet, I was thinking if he would've gave him a stronger medicine aft er the first 20 days he wouldn't have made it to a habit... ugh but I try not to blame him, he did what he thought was best.There's no way to tell, and you usually DO do a second course of the first antibiotic before trying something stronger so your vet was following proper protocol. In other words - don't be mad at the et or blame the vet. The only thing he really could have done differently was actually return your calls earlier. I honestly think that Caillou's chewing will get better once we get him onto bones - time will tell! I had to go get more meds at the vet because they messed up and dint give me enough. They charged me $3 for 5 extra syringes, freaking kidding me? They have those out the wazoo I've seen the stock room. And they made me pay for extra medicine evet though it was their fault. Oh well. The tech who was there said she felt so sorry for me because of how sick they all have been... yeah, I get pity ftom strangers.. lol My vet always gives me tons of extra syringes free. That's silly. Sorry for the long multiple posts I like to share pretty much everything that goes on with them, proud mama here haha.
Since Cai can't have anything but pork I'll give him pork slivers so he can work his way up in size with them.Like I said more is always better than not enough! Definitely work with him on the pork chunks. How many days has he been on pork only now? Sorry I have NO sense of time with my insane schedule, I usually don't even know what day it is. hahaha One more question, for you or Stef, I'm going to go either tomorrow or Friday for the pork heart and liver if they have it, what else should I look for?Pork heart, pork liver, pork kidney...basically any unusual part. Heart, liver, and kidney would be the top 3 but you can also look out for stuff like: spleen, pork brains, pork uterus, rabbit, duck, other animal parts, etc etc. Sorry I didn't post their log for yesterday, I had a little bit of a breakdown, the stress got to me and I had to take a break from ferrets and raw meat for the night. I'll post it when I get home later today.Uh oh Hang in there! You are doing a really great job with these guys. You have 2 very difficult ferrets on your hands - a bad chewer and a little old lady with insu. You are doing amazing, and they are doing great moving along with the meat. Give yourself a pat on the back today, and give them each a snuggle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 12:43:09 GMT -5
Like katt said, don't worry about overposting. Knowledge is Power. Katt, I found info on the forum about brushing teeth with gauze and an eggshell powder paster. Emily wanted to brush Caillou's teeth and several other ferrents asked about it. So, I researched the Old Forum and New Forum and found a conversation between Heather and Sherry and this method was suggested. For Juliet, I would coddle her and hand feed her. She is going thru alot and if she eats better that way, she may feel better and get more energy. We don't want to hand feed all our ferrets, but Jules is a special case. Of course, if Katt has another opinion, we defer to her senior experience. That's cute that Caillou is getting snuggly. Mine started to become very cuddly and wanted snuggles after I started feeding them raw. I think it really builds a bond. Plus he may need a little extra reassurance because Marcie is new. Maybe he is making sure that she knows that you were his Mom, first. Caillou is five? How did I miss that. I was thinking he was closer to a year old. It would be better for him to learn to eat on his own. You will want to sit with him for awhile. Try using the spoon. Offer him some food on his spoon and then the next bite, lower the spoon to the bowl and hold it there. Another bite or two, slide the spoon away and still sit there. Do this for a few days and then hopefully, he will get the idea and eat on his own. He must be eating some at night, when you are asleep, so he's just wants the extra attention and spoiling. Like Katt said, You're doing great managing three different ferrets with three different needs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 12:44:53 GMT -5
I wanted to brush Caillou's gums because of his gingivitis, I can't afford a teeth cleaning, and I thought that would help sooth his gums a little.No I support the tooth cleaning - I recommended it a few times. My Q is why with oil and eggshell? Did someone recommend that? I have never heard of that, I wouldn't think oil would be the best cleaner.... They make dog and cat toothpaste. You should be able to get a small tube of kitty toothpaste at the pet store for relatively inexpensive. These ones don't look bad and come with a toothbrush: www.petsmart.com/cat/dental-care/arm-hammer-advanced-pet-care-cat-toothpaste-brush-set-zid36-5191065/cat-36-catid-200005?_t=pfm%3Dcategorywww.petsmart.com/cat/dental-care/hc-petrodex-cat-dental-kit-zid36-5190866/cat-36-catid-200005?_t=pfm%3DcategoryThis is everyone's favorite, but it's a few more bucks ($13) www.oxyfresh.com/pet/pet-gel-healing-cream.aspThis one is $5 www.amazon.com/Enzadent-Pet-Toothpaste-Poultry-Flavor/dp/B002TN33NW/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1414603175&sr=8-11&keywords=cat+toothpaste(ingredients on this page: www.drugs.com/vet/enzadent-enzymatic-toothpaste.html)Read the ingredients as some of them (not the ones linked!) have melaleuca (tea tree) oil which is toxic to them. Marcie was being sucharged a pa in about the slivers last night. She isn't ready for bone unless they're tiny, so I'll keep giving her just meat slivers. She didn't want any of them last night, hopefully she'll be better tonight. They'll have on and off days just like us. I just feel like everyone else's ferrets are going along so much faster then mine. But I'm very proud of them, they're my babies and I enjoy watching them be happy as they eat their thin soup and avoid the slivers as if they are poison.That's an illusion. Everyone's ferrets move at different paces and yours are actually moving along quite quickly - you're just excited and impatient. haha I know you are eager to get them there, but I promise they are moving along at a great pace. It can be bad to push them too hard bc if you move too fast, they won't recognize the food and will not eat enough. We've actually had issues with people saying "he's eating chunks!" and stop the soup bc they are all excited when the ferret is not yet eating the chunks well enough (or at all - some pick it up and spit it out and just look like they were eating) and the ferret drops weight and ends up sick. That's why we added the weekly weigh-ins as part of the program. We only have the information that you give us, so if you say they are eating something, we have to believe that they are eating something. Anyways point is, it is good to push them but it's bad to push them too fast. Your ferrets are moving along at a great pace. I've had switches that took much longer to get this far. Caillou gums look great, completely normal. Still chewing, he's made it into habit I'm sure. He only will grab my carpet maybe once during play time but nothing else, and only chews on fabric if it's in his cage. I was a little mad at my vet, I was thinking if he would've gave him a stronger medicine aft er the first 20 days he wouldn't have made it to a habit... ugh but I try not to blame him, he did what he thought was best.There's no way to tell, and you usually DO do a second course of the first antibiotic before trying something stronger so your vet was following proper protocol. In other words - don't be mad at the et or blame the vet. The only thing he really could have done differently was actually return your calls earlier. I honestly think that Caillou's chewing will get better once we get him onto bones - time will tell! I had to go get more meds at the vet because they messed up and dint give me enough. They charged me $3 for 5 extra syringes, freaking kidding me? They have those out the wazoo I've seen the stock room. And they made me pay for extra medicine evet though it was their fault. Oh well. The tech who was there said she felt so sorry for me because of how sick they all have been... yeah, I get pity ftom strangers.. lol[img src="http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/ .png" src="http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/ .png"] My vet always gives me tons of extra syringes free. That's silly. Sorry for the long multiple posts I like to share pretty much everything that goes on with them, proud mama here haha.
Since Cai can't have anything but pork I'll give him pork slivers so he can work his way up in size with them.Like I said more is always better than not enough! Definitely work with him on the pork chunks. How many days has he been on pork only now? Sorry I have NO sense of time with my insane schedule, I usually don't even know what day it is. hahaha One more question, for you or Stef, I'm going to go either tomorrow or Friday for the pork heart and liver if they have it, what else should I look for?Pork heart, pork liver, pork kidney...basically any unusual part. Heart, liver, and kidney would be the top 3 but you can also look out for stuff like: spleen, pork brains, pork uterus, rabbit, duck, other animal parts, etc etc. Sorry I didn't post their log for yesterday, I had a little bit of a breakdown, the stress got to me and I had to take a break from ferrets and raw meat for the night. I'll post it when I get home later today.Uh oh Hang in there! You are doing a really great job with these guys. You have 2 very difficult ferrets on your hands - a bad chewer and a little old lady with insu. You are doing amazing, and they are doing great moving along with the meat. Give yourself a pat on the back today, and give them each a snuggle. We must have been posting at the same time. I suggested the gauze and eggshell paste based on some Forum threads that I found. There was a conversation between Heather and Sherry and this was suggested. Let me find the link again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 12:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 12:49:19 GMT -5
They made a thread on here somewhere on it @poncesmom do you know where the thread is? Msav suggested it to me weeks ago.
I mostly want them switched onto frankenprey, because I'm spending so much on meat for soup. Before I started the switch I was under the impression it would only be $40-$50 per month or less which was completely fine and I can afford that, nope, it's been over $100 per months and so I've spent around $250 on meat in two months and that's not something I can keep paying, I can barely care for them with their medicines and vet bills and with their food costing this much I don't know how much longer I can go with missing payments on everything for their food. My mother believes the raw is making them sick since Caillou got gingivitis after it and Juliet developed insulinoma, she doesn't understand those are kibble related, and she's realizing how much it's costing, something I was trying to hide. Hard to be lectured on money almost every day, when there is nothing I can do about it.
And Katt, why does Caillou act like he hates his food? It takes several minutes and me pushing it up to his face to get him to eat and even then he won't finish without my help. And he HATES slivers, he avoids them at every cost. Why? He's so weird. Even little tiny ones.
I think he's been on pork for 7 days now, I'm pretty sure it was when he started taking Baytril.
Should I get any other meats or just pork for now? I was gonna get quail for the bones for Marcie and Jules.
Every time I read someone tell me I'm doing great I start to cry, I'm such a wreck right now Im not sure why it's just hitting me about everything thats going on. I'm going to the chiropractor today, maybe that'll make me feel better. Fingers crossed I don't go completely insane.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 12:53:06 GMT -5
We're cross posting lol. Thanks Stef. Yes he's 5, based on his teeth.
Heather helped me sort of confirm, Caillou is a Waardie. So he's extra special. I love spoiling them and hand feeding them, but I don't always have the time, that's why I was wanting them to know to eat on their own so they don't starve if Im in a hurry. I think last night Cai was expeexpecting some ferretone or something, and ate when he realized it wasn't happening.
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