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Post by msav on Oct 17, 2014 13:00:48 GMT -5
I am considering this. as the current breeders were not Tamed (or maybe they can never be Tamed) I am hoping that they will become more tame with handling starting from a young age.
AT this rate though I need to get to work on the rack.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 21:24:38 GMT -5
I've heard that people get theirs pretty tamed! I got mine as hoppers so I've been working on handling them a lot before they have their first litter. They let me pet them, but I can't get them to sit still on my hand or anything like that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 4:09:17 GMT -5
Well done - you got babies
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Post by msav on Oct 18, 2014 10:12:50 GMT -5
here is an updated pic of the first litter. They have now separated the first litter from the 2nd. How long before I can separate them from their mothers. They look like hopper age. I am not sure if they are eating on their own yet. They for the most part stay in the box, every once in a while one will venture out of the box and then go back in.
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Post by msav on Oct 18, 2014 12:32:11 GMT -5
BTW the 2nd litter had 12 pinkies.
Grand total between both litters is 28
Not bad
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Post by msav on Oct 21, 2014 21:21:36 GMT -5
The female that gave birth to the first litter is obviously pregnant again.(she has gotten larger every day since the last litter was born) I was reading that the female will go into heat again a few hours after birth. It has been 21 days since the first litter was born. She should be ready to give birth any day now.
I have moved the babies to another cage (they were nor being nursed and have been eating food on their own) so she can give birth to the next litter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 21:25:52 GMT -5
They are so cute!
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Post by bitbyter on Oct 21, 2014 21:42:49 GMT -5
You have to find out when they are sexual mature. A few days before that is generally when you remove them from their mothers. They should be weaned by then. Yes female rodents can become pregnant again a few hours after giving birth. That is why I separate the male mouse (not sure if that is advisable for ASF's). I plan to give my females a week or so on their own without babies or a male around as a break.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:07:13 GMT -5
You can't really separate them like you can with mice since they form colonies at a young age and will gladly attack any "intruders". It's believed that this is why females have a much shorter lifespan.
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Post by msav on Oct 21, 2014 23:07:50 GMT -5
From what I have been reading, pretty much everything that is a rule with breeding mice is not the case with ASF rats. With ASF's they say not to remove the male, (and I did) Not to reintroduce the male to a female with babies (I also did after reading That I should not have removed the male in the first place) I then separated the male again because I read that the male would be killed (the female was actually cleaning the male after being reintroduced for a whole day) I read that you can separate the babies from their mother at 3 to 4 weeks.
So Right now I don't know what to do. Everything I read that would happen has not happened, It will get too crowded in the cage with 3 litters and 3 females, the male ect. So I don't think keeping them all together is an option.
If I make a mistake and I can't reintroduce the male with the 3 females again, they will go in the freezer and I will learn my lesson and start again with a new breeding group with the babies when they get older.
live and learn.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 23:37:17 GMT -5
Hey maybe you have some really docile females? I don't think that everything is 100% so I'm sure there are some ASF's that won't be aggressive and kill the male.
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Post by bitbyter on Oct 21, 2014 23:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by msav on Oct 22, 2014 10:00:46 GMT -5
I was correct. The female with the first litter just gave birth to her second litter last night.
I could not see how many she had, will have to wait until she takes a break from feeding.
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Post by msav on Oct 23, 2014 20:26:46 GMT -5
One of my tan females just gave birth to another litter. I think she has about 12. the previous litter looks like 14-16
This makes a total of 4 litters in about a months time. just under 60 babies.
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Post by bitbyter on Oct 23, 2014 20:54:08 GMT -5
holy crap!! maybe I will try ASF's
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