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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 20:36:25 GMT -5
May put some eggshell in organ meal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 20:30:30 GMT -5
"is there a weight i should go by for the liver--1/2 ounce? pork brain hmm" There really isn't a specific weight to use. It all depends on the TOTAL your ferret eats and it's half of that. For example, my big boy Pepe eats about 2-4 oz a meal so if I was feeding liver and BRAINS (dance) then it would be about (we will go with 4 because we always want to feed more than they need hurt in case) 2 oz liver and 2 oz brain. But my tiny girl Ruby only eats about 2 oz a meal (on a good day) so I make sure there's about 1 oz of each brain and liver. Oliver eats about 3 oz a meal. Together I will feed about 4.5 oz each of liver and brains. Now how much each eats I have no actual idea, I just know that I feed about 9 oz a meal and it seems to feed all of them with a bite or two extra. Make sense? That's why at the beginning got helps to weigh things so you get an idea of how much they eat. And then the seasons change and you have to figure it all out again
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 20:34:00 GMT -5
"I hve some rabbit bones in slow cooker (several hrs of cooking). They turn almost into powder when i mash them with fork. Have u heard of anyone using something like this in ground beef?"
I know I general we avoid cooking bones. The first thing that comes to mind is splintering but I think that mainly happens with things like chicken bones. The other thing is I bet it gets ride of lots of the nutrients. I am going to put a question into some of the senior mentors and see what they say.
Why are you cooking them? Is it just the bone or some meat too? No spices right?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 23:57:06 GMT -5
So the senior mentors say that cooking bones to the point of them disintegrating is ok. It's when they are dry that they can splinter and all. Also it was mentioned that as long as you are using the liquid also that most of the nutrients will still be there. It just gets cooked out into the broth. I'm still not sure what your using the cooked bones for but just thought it would be a good FYI for the both of us :0)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 7:16:36 GMT -5
I was making me some bone broth soup. Thought i might could use bones in ground bison or beef. However, if all the nutrients are in soup, maybe not too good. Eggshells probably holds more nutrients.
no spices.
I got rabbit stock in freezer may pour a little over muscle meat. Goat did not work out this morn. Maybe ill grind it up and make a soupie with rabbit stock. I do want to stay away from chicken as much as possible.--because of possible allergies. Abbey was itching like crazy on wysong. I noticed her itching when i fed her cornish. Then again, she may have adrenal disease. Tail is a little sparse here and there on tip.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 8:05:42 GMT -5
Rabbit bone broth from slow cooking bones 24 hrs(guessing).Poured some over rabbit bits and Annabelle came back for seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 9:28:46 GMT -5
That's understandable about the allergy, however a true allergy to a protein is likely going to show extreme reactions like uncontrollable vomiting. I can walk you through a trial if you would like to possibly figure it out. It would be hard to not feed chicken and other poultry because that is where they get most of their healthy BI.
Also, has Abbey been vetted recently? What does the vet think about possible AD? Is she implanted or anything?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 9:32:19 GMT -5
So how big are the pieces your feeding right now? You have briefly mentioned quartering CGH but that's about it. Are they eating most of the bones or are you still breaking them up?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 16:10:37 GMT -5
I have not defrosted duck yet anything i need to do----like smash bones with a hammer?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 16:20:02 GMT -5
I cut cornish like a chicken, then I halve the leg and halve the thigh. I make it manageable to eat.I will make 4 pieces out of breast. So, they r basically getting small hunks. Ok I will start back on chicken.
when u give chicken thigh, how do u serve it cut up in 2- 4 pieces?
What do u mean by vetted?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 16:31:52 GMT -5
I really do not like chemicals in my babies. I have asked Miami about Deslorerin. Mainly, because vet said she would put an implant in her ferret if she had one.
Does anyone on forum have intact females and use vasectomized males to bring them out of heat?
Was wondering how they have faired with keeping adrenal at bay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 21:22:01 GMT -5
I have not defrosted duck yet anything i need to do----like smash bones with a hammer? Until they are eating bones on their own they best thing to do is exactly that. More so at the beginning (we want them tasting that marrow yummie-ness) and then you can do it less and less. Once it is smashed up nicely you can cut it up of needed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 21:30:44 GMT -5
I cut cornish like a chicken, then I halve the leg and halve the thigh. I make it manageable to eat.I will make 4 pieces out of breast. So, they r basically getting small hunks. Ok I will start back on chicken. when u give chicken thigh, how do u serve it cut up in 2- 4 pieces? What do u mean by vetted? CGH is fine to feed if their eating it!! You want that minimum of 3 proteins anyhow, so it's a good thing if their eating it as well. And as far as cutting things up, it all depends on how big a piece they will eat. At first it needs to be small, but now I only cut up pieces to about fist size. I would prob cut a CGH in half, maybe thirds. I put a whole quail in there and they devour it! I also hang my bigger pieces in their feeding den. They tend to eat it better if it's hanging than on a plate or the dens floor. Organs and heart I feed that way though. And sorry, vetted just means have they seen a vet. (shy) I just wonder what your vet says about the symptoms she's having.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 22:00:07 GMT -5
Do i hang the quail? and to about how far off floor of den--- nose level to ferret?
do u use shower curtain clamps and chain?
They eat bone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 8:17:35 GMT -5
abbey woke up with watery eyes just wants to sleep and noticed one foot pad dry, which vet noticed few weeks ago. it does get cold in room 74 degrees,which doesnt seem cold, but cold air blows across room. She may be sick with cold no runny nose.
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