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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 15:31:40 GMT -5
My Juliet is on melatonin, but she has no hair loss. Actually her hair is the thickest out of any ferret I've had or fostered. But I babysat on ferret who was I think 5-6 years, she had Adrenal and she had been on Des since she was 4 years old, got an implant every 6 months , she was completely naked except for a tiny patch on her head. Her owner said that she had been bald since a few months after being diagnosed, and the Des was working great, I experienced her behavior for 1 week and she was happy and energetic, had a big appetite and was like a normal fert, she was just bald.
So I'm guessing it just depends on each ferret.
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Post by Heather on Sept 11, 2014 15:34:49 GMT -5
It does. It also works best if the DES is used along with the melatonin. I know wee Pooka would never have got her beautiful coat without the melatonin. She was doing very well with her DES implant but she still ran around in her little lion cut (it was the cutest shed out I've ever seen). Once I started using the melatonin then her coat came in gorgeous and thick and so soft ciao
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 22:16:25 GMT -5
My ferret is on both a des implant and a melatonin implant. His hair still has not grown back on his butt and tail. I got him both implants back in March. I assume it won't hurt to give my ferret the des implant every 6 months instead of once a year?
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Post by Sherry on Sept 15, 2014 9:25:06 GMT -5
It should definitely be given every 6 months for adrenal. Yearly is way too long and he would have break through symptoms
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 17:45:41 GMT -5
Thanks for that info!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 17:46:35 GMT -5
Oh now what about the melatonin implant? Should that be done every six months also?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 19:26:58 GMT -5
I've been curious about this too - Rolo is my only ferret and obviously my first adrenal. He's had 2 lupron injections at this point and will get at least one more (and then hopefully des & melatonin implants depending on what the vet thinks after we're done the lupron trial) and still losing fur. He's got his energy back (minus the few days after each injection, the second time he was also very lethargic for about 2 days) but more and more I can see all his wrinkly skin starting to show. Its still cute in its own way, but it means I can't take him out to play in the snow this year because he'll be too cold without his coat.
Is the regrowth dependent on the time of year you start treatment? Like, regardless do you have to wait for their next shed/regrowth season before their fur recovers?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 1:49:47 GMT -5
What a cutie Rolo is!!!! Honestly I never had that great of luck with Lupron compared to the des implants. Just for whatever reason the implants aren't helping my ferret as much as I've seen in the past. As far as the seasons go I've never seen a difference or waited until the next shed season. Plus I'm in California so not all my ferrets have shed coats or grown beautiful winter coats.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 14:29:17 GMT -5
What a cutie Rolo is!!!! Honestly I never had that great of luck with Lupron compared to the des implants. Just for whatever reason the implants aren't helping my ferret as much as I've seen in the past. As far as the seasons go I've never seen a difference or waited until the next shed season. Plus I'm in California so not all my ferrets have shed coats or grown beautiful winter coats. Someone in another thread mentioned there were batches of spoiled implants - when was your ferret implanted? And thanks, even as raggedy & patchy as he is atm he's still adorable I'm really going to push to have him on DES next month... I understand why my vet wanted to try lupron first, but I don't think its doing enough to help him at this point. His hair loss in the past 2-3 days is absolutely shocking. Whole patches of hair are gone now - even the guard hairs and he's never lost those before. He has gained weight though which is excellent, and generally he's more playful now - minus the couple days after the lupron injection.
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Post by unclejoe on Oct 6, 2014 16:16:21 GMT -5
Suprelorin implants are on backorder until at least mid november. Its now 7 months since des and one since Jaffa's last melatonon and still no noticeable hair re growth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5
Yes there recently was a batch of bad implants. There's a thread about it on here. But the implants were pretty recently sent out and they were bad from the Hurricane in Hawaii. Frisky got his implant in March so it wasn't from that batch.
I just took Frisky into another vet yesterday and he told me some ferrets bodies just get resistant to the des implants. Which is frustrating because years ago I thought the des implants were going to be our miracle cure.
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Post by Heather on Oct 7, 2014 13:15:59 GMT -5
If Frisky had his implant in March, he should have had another implant by Sept. Lady "B" didn't appear to respond to her implant until the second, in fact I honestly thought her adrenal was cancerous. Malignant tumours do not respond to the DES implant or Lupron for that matter. DES occasionally regrows hair but rarely, it seems to work the internal. Hair regrowth seems to depend entirely on the combined efforts of the DES and the melatonin. People have a tendency to believe that melatonin works because they see hair regrowth. A furry adrenal ferret isn't much better off than one who's naked when the adrenal tumours are on the inside and hair regrowth is just one of many symptoms that need to be treated. One of the biggest issues right now is the conflict in timing. The manufacturer is claiming one thing and those who are actually using this product are finding out something entirely different. To be honest I've seen too many of these products claiming to be able to save our ferrets. This one actually promised a lot. Think about it. It claims to safely alter our ferrets by giving an annual implant, thus preventing adrenal. It claims to be able to halt even reverse the adrenal tumour growth. It claims if given at the "right" time it can prevent adrenal from happening in our early alters. I think we need to look at it as a method or a tool, just like melatonin, Lupron and other drugs. It's effectiveness depends entirely on the individual ferret and it's sum of the diseases it's fighting. It's just my outlook on it. I've seen a lot of promises, a lot of cures, many provide a bandaid but not what they promise ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 17:46:38 GMT -5
Since being on this group I found out he needed another implant in 6 months. But then with the whole issue of the bad batch of implant and them being on back order it has delayed things. And yes I do remember when the drug was introduced it was supposed to solve everything and if give annually could actually be a preventative. That's why I gave Frisky his first implant. But over the years and dealing with rescues I've seen some that have done great with the drug. But others have had little to no changes from it.
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