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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 19:52:43 GMT -5
So I've noticed a lot the recipes for raw soups and other raw menu call for eggs or at least crushed egg shells. My body has been on this crazy "food revolt" for the past 2 years and they are pretty sure I've developed an allergy to peanuts, tree nuts and now possibly eggs. I'm schedule for allergy testing on may 26 (it's a year long wait in Calgary - crazy!) so I'll know for sure then, and I don't know if I'm allergic or just intolerant (eggs give me these killer stomach cramps and other.. unpleasant digestive issues, whereas nuts give me the swollen throat / itchy mouth symptoms - but I'm told that severe digestive upset can still be a sign of an allergy - like people get with seafood sometimes). But anyways I may end up with a ferret before then and I'm super nervous about touching eggs. I realize "egg" is in almost all dry pet food (and in all the pet food I currently feed) but it's in smaller amounts and I'm at least able to be careful not to touch the kibble... crushing up egg shells might be a little tricky to do without touching them. My question is are eggs / egg shells a must to a raw diet? Or can other forms of protein and calcium (bones) be substituted? Thanks  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 20:26:52 GMT -5
Nope they can live without eggs. Just use a bonemeal suppplement instead. The eggshell is just for when they're eating soups or on days where they need some calcium. When they're on bone-in meats, you really don't need to add anything (as long as they eat bone just fine).
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Post by taratee on Apr 20, 2011 20:31:48 GMT -5
i think you can substitute the eggshell in the soup for something
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 20:33:42 GMT -5
Yeah, you can either use bonemeal or actual bones. If you cook the bones long enough (pressure cooker does it pretty fast from what I hear) they will turn to mush and you can feed those as a bone replacement.
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Post by katt on Apr 20, 2011 20:46:43 GMT -5
No. I don't feed any eggs. Koda will have nothing to do with them unless they are hidden in soupies.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 1:01:06 GMT -5
Great to know! That eases my mind a lot!!!  |
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Post by Sherry on Apr 21, 2011 9:32:34 GMT -5
You can pick up raw bone meal from Tail Blazer's on 51st street SW |
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Post by suds on May 18, 2011 7:24:35 GMT -5
just a little note you mite be allergic to chicken eggs but not to other eggs you can also try quail . duck and other fowel eggs mine love the little quail eggs they get them as treats once in a while ... another thing is you can make your own bone meal its pretty easy just boil the bone untill it gets mushy you know when its ready when you can mush the bones with your fingers .. you loose some nutrients but in the beginning the most important netrient is calcium which will be there ... I just boil the bones untill soft then put in a food proc. put it on paper towel to dry out then store in a tupper ware cont. btw I normaly use the back bones of chickens about 6 will give me plenty for soups or emengency's for about 6 months (most butchers will give them to you for free if you dont cut up oyr own birds) and I save the broth and condence it down and makes a good rich stock to thin out your soupies too |
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Post by Sherry on May 18, 2011 10:10:05 GMT -5
I really wish we could get quail or duck eggs here  We don't have very many "real" butchers left anymore either. I think I found four or five in the phone book, and they are quite a distance away. |
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Post by suds on May 18, 2011 11:42:36 GMT -5
being on the Pa, Del and N.J, borders I am lucky to have access to farms , asian and Italian markets in philly and a few good butchers here where I get allot of scraps very cheap ..
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 14:18:17 GMT -5
Ya like Sherry said we don't have a lot of variety here it seems Oh well, allergy test next thursday (after a year long wait) so I'll find out for sure. Pretty sure it's just an intolerance and not an allergy, but the bone meal works great anyways! Although I'd love to give them eggs as a treat, so here's hoping I'm not allergic. Just out of curiousity, if I'm not allergic...Do you give eggs raw? just like crack them on a plate and let them eat them? Or are they normally put in something? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 14:20:22 GMT -5
Do you give eggs raw? just like crack them on a plate and let them eat them? Or are they normally put in something? I do raw eggs as a snack once or twice a week. I just crack it into a bowl, whip it (to mix the yolk and white) and then pour onto their plate or food bowl. I also mix it with my ground meats sometimes |
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Post by suds on May 18, 2011 14:34:27 GMT -5
just crack them in a bowl like you do with scrambled eggs put a mat under the bowl if you dint use a feeding den like soupies they can make quite a mess
if they don't eat it raw you can try and add cream if they like cream and slowly remove the cream each feeding
I actually had to cook scramble eggs and slowly made them more liquidity for picky Hershey to eat them she has strange issues with texture and never really cares for soupy things
other have to cook them over easy and sunny side up
as with all things with ferts its always a trial and error till you find what works for them and you
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Post by Sherry on May 18, 2011 21:19:09 GMT -5
I feed them raw and scrambled in the dish, warmed slightly and scrambled, cooked scrambled, and hard boiled |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 21:28:12 GMT -5
Well let's hope I'm not allergic so I can cook up some eggs for me and the girls! I can only eat egg whites actually if I'm not allergic, yolks = very bad for IBS. I'm guessing the ferrets are good with yolks and whites though? |
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We don't have very many "real" butchers left anymore either. I think I found four or five in the phone book, and they are quite a distance away.