No worries, post it when you can. When will you be able to get organs again if you can't find any tomorrow? Like I said short term is not ideal but OK, but long term they have to have organs and heart/taurine. Wal-Mart usually carries deveined calf liver in the frozen section, check there. You may be able to find hearts there too, it really depends on what your local Wal-Mart carries though. Let me know what you find.
Nothing new. I'm on my phone right now so I'm going to try and do a weekly meal:
Saturday: A.M: chicken hearts P.M: chicken hearts
Sunday: A.M: chicken hearts P.M:gizzard
Monday: A.M: chicken necks P.M: lamb chops
Tuesday: A.M: chicken wings P.M: chicken wings
Wednesday: a.m: drum sticks P.M: pork
Thursday: A.M chick necks P.M: steak
A.M&P.M: chick wings or some type of bone.
Much better on the bone. You have about twice as much heart as you need though and no organs (I know you were out this week). Ideally for your heart meals you want one and a half meals of heart, and one and a half of organ. So when you restock on organs just swap out one and a half of your current heart meals for organ. Does that make sense?
Ahh -.- I wish I would have known that. They had liver frozen in the butcher place. Well maybe if I don't need anything from that Asian store since it's far I'll go back to Albertsons.
If at any point you can go to the Asian market and check out their selection they are usually a great resource. With the kidney and liver you meet your organ needs, BUT more variety is always better (if you find like say brains, pancreas, uterus, etc). Also, if you can find another source of edible bone at some point, that would be good too.
Could you give me a whole list of all the organs? The guy told me what he had but I wasn't sure exactly. My grandma told me about a local store that has a lot of organs, so tomorrow I'll be checking out there selection. Since the Asian market is about 1 hour away, next time I'm in town I'll check it out.
Nutritional Organs are Major Hormone-Secreting Tissues: Liver Kidney Brain Spleen Pancreas Gallbladder Major glands (thymus, thyroid, parathyroid) Uterus Testicles
Pork Stomach Lining** (pork stomach is an organ, but it is lower in nutrients than the others listed, so not particularly worth feeding) Tripe is the stomach of ruminating animals (usually Beef). White tripe has all of the nutrients bleached out of it and should NOT be fed. Green tripe is high in nutrients but smells horrid and usually ferrets won’t go near it so it’s really not worth the bother. If your ferrets will eat it, more power to you. Chitterlings (pork small intestine): similar to stomach this is an organ but is low in nutrients compared to the others and usually picked out of whole prey so there isn't much benefit to feeding it.
NON-Organ meats Gizzards – gizzards are comprised of primarily muscle tissue and tendon, nutritionally they are a muscle meat source. Great for cleaning teeth.
Tongue – tongue is a muscle meat
Lungs- lungs do not secrete hormones, they are comprised of connective tissue and endothelium. They are not considered a true “organ” as far as raw diet is concerned. They are however a GREAT part of a raw diet and are very high in Iron and Vitamin B12, as well as other B Vitamins. Definitely a good thing to feed if you have access.
They need to have 10% of their entire diet organ each week. OF that 10%, it should be about HALF liver, and HALF other organs (see list above). Kidney and brain are the best, but the other listed organs are all great too - the more variety the better. EACH WEEK they need ONE AND A HALF MEALS of organ.
You can do one meal of liver, and half a meal of Other Organs. Or you can do one meal of half liver, half other organs and one meal of half liver. OR you can do one meal half liver half other organs, and Half a meal another day that is also half liver half other organs (so 1/4 liver, 1/4 other organs, 1/2 heart).
Here are some EXAMPLES of how you could structure that. This is the part of the diet that can get a little confusing so ask away if you have any questions or are unclear about anything.
The above 3 examples all give one and a half meals of heart, and one and a half meals of organ that is at Least half liver. Does that make sense? Please let me know if it is confusing.
Something to remember is it can be very helpful to prepare food in advance. I buy in bulk, and chop everything up and put it into sandwich sized ziplock bags and freeze them. Then all I have to do for each meal is pull out a ziplock bag of meat and give it to them. With that in mind, you can create organ mix bags, that contain half a meal's worth of liver, and half a meal's worth of a mix of Other organs. My two boys together eat approximately 1/3-1/2 of a ziplock sandwich bag (less in summer, more in winter). Then you could make other baggies of JUST heart, and other baggies of half heart, half organ mix. You can use a permanent marker to label the bags. It is time consuming but it is a lot less time consuming throughout the week. I pick one day and I go shopping and stock up on a bunch of meat. Then I take the time to prepare it all ahead of time in meal-sized baggies, and store it all in the freezer. That takes a lot of time but THEN I don't have to do all of that prep work every day, I just have to grab a bag of already prepared meat each meal.
BONES. most poultry bones are of edible size for ferrets, though some of the bigger ones need to be broken to give them a starting point. Some good bone sources are:
Cornish Game Hen (PERFECT bones for ferrets, but can be a bit spendy) turkey (goes on sale for super cheap right after Thanksgiving) duck goose pork button bones (some ferrets can eat small pork rib bones, some cannot) rabbit whole prey (mice, rats, guinea pigs, etc) quail pheasant partridge
Turkey necks are a great bone source (so are chicken necks and chicken feet if you ever come across those btw). Turkey bones and duck or goose bones often have to be broken up a little bit for them, especially the leg bones, the larger wing bone, and the neck/spine. The wing tips and ribs are easy to eat even from larger birds though, and if you break up the larger bones like I mentioned, it will give them a starting point and they should be able to eat most of the bone. Even if you just mix one of two other bones sources in here and there that is better than nothing. Chicken allergies are fairly common and can occur later in their lives so it is good to have another source that they already recognize just in case. It also helps give them more variety both for nutritional reasons AND so they don't get bored of eating so much chicken.
The more expensive meats like game hen and duck I feed less often. You can buy a whole duck and chop it up into little baggies like I mentioned, and then stretch out feeding it over time so they get some here and there to add a little variety, but you don't use up the duck super fast.