I haven't had a chance to get a weight on the girls since our scales seem to be off. They read that Clover had lost 50g (which cannot be correct in any way since she looks and feels fatter)
They both have been normally active although Clover isn't happy because I won't let her run around. Both of their stools have been normal with each different food. Zoey got to try a fish last week and she loved it! Their menu was as follows: Mon: chicken carcass and liver+kidney
Tues: chicken carcass and turkey necks
Wed: chicken carcass and beef heart
Thurs: chicken carcass and lamb heart
Fri: chicken carcass and a fish+a mouse (Clover had the mouse and Zoey the fish)
Sat: chicken carcass and beef meat
Sun: chicken carcass and chicken giblets.
There was a lot of chicken carcass this week due to us being unable to get some chicken necks for the past couple of weeks and we ran out :/ so we gave them two meals of heart to hopefully help a bit.
Post by goingpostal on Nov 4, 2013 21:23:16 GMT -5
You have to make do with what you can get, I always snatch up any marked down meats so mine might not get a certain cut for awhile and then a lot of it. I have a lot of freezer space though so try to buy in bulk and dole out in separate baggies. Good that they are willing to try new things, all of mine have not been fish fans, they play with it more than they eat.
I try and get meat whenever it's on special, but I don't get to the shops often these days :/ I'm going this afternoon, so I'll be trying to hunt some down. One of them is willing, the other we either have to stick it in her face and rub her teeth with it or we have to repeatedly try and get her to even sniff it. I think Zoey took to the fish because it was still alive, and she's a little hunter haha
Post by goingpostal on Nov 5, 2013 17:44:37 GMT -5
Can I get you to write up an example of a normal feeding schedule you would like to feed for a week, seems like you are ready to graduate, they are eating full chunks of bone in and organs and you've got enough proteins in there. How are they looking and feeling these days? Did you double check the scale and Clover's weight?
Ok, a weekly schedule of what I would like to feed would be:
Mon- chicken necks and organs (liver+kidney) Tues- turkey necks and mice Wed- chicken carcass and beef/pork/lamb meat Thurs-chicken necks and heart Fri- chicken carcass and mice Sat- turkey necks and chicken giblets Sun- chicken carcass and beef/pork/lamb meat That's similar to the schedule they are on now but since we finally got our mice started breeding we can give them more of them
Our scales must be correct cause its still saying the same thing. At the moment Clover weighs 781g which is a loss of 91g. Zoey weighs 721g which she's only lost 9g. All energy levels are normal, eating and pooping normally, I'm thinkin perhaps their bodies have finally kicked into gear with the right seasons and they're losing their winter fat now.
Post by goingpostal on Nov 7, 2013 19:35:19 GMT -5
Ok and that looks good, you'll have to watch poops, I would still like to see a couple of your bone in meals to be legs or thighs, something a bit meatier or just add in one more boneless meal instead. I would also try to get in some skin/fat where possible, it's an important part of their diet and generally necks sold are skinned, your red meats it's probably cheaper to buy a fatty cut anyways.
Yeah, it's difficult to get them to eat the fat or skin with chicken and red meats because Zoey can't really get through the thick fat in lamb and she also couldn't be bothered to chew the skin on chicken -.-. At least Clover will give it a good go. I'll grab some legs or thighs next time I can and slowly introduce them to the girls
Post by goingpostal on Nov 8, 2013 16:45:07 GMT -5
Don't be afraid to try stuff they seem to hate now and again too, my crew tends to hate beef, cut a little off a steak last night (fajita night lol) and both of the little turds gobbled their chunk up and looked for more. Sometimes they can be frustrating with what they eat one week and totally refuse the next.
Haha very true, they can be little shits. Like the issue with the no chicken necks for a while, so now they love chicken carcass, but won't touch the necks unless we hand feed them -.- back to square one with the necks haha (I secretly think that Clover is just a lazy little sod who likes someone to hold her food while she chews)
That's all good. Awesome, Id like to go hunting here but, kinda can't :/ Yep all eating habits and stools are normal. Activity levels normal and they got to try a chicken drumstick yesterday, Clover loved it! They didn't eat too much of it but she gave it a good go.
Congratulations (dance). you've graduated and you're ready to walk this path alone, now (wave) . You have the foundation to help you feed your fuzzes in a more natural and healthy manner. Please remember that your learning never stops, and dietary needs change from ferret to ferret and throughout each their lives. Your menu is bone heavy so keep an eye on stools. If they become dry then just up the amount of meats. It's also something to keep in mind if you get more ferrets. I would also be looking at a possible alternative to the chicken bones. Your diet is chicken heavy so could use some other alternatives. If your still looking at filling boned meats, I would consider rabbit, quail, even some of the smaller boned pork riblets or what is called button bones. I would also like you to be aware that though you now have the capability and the knowledge to create your little ones diets you are never alone and that your mentor (you need only pm) is always available to you. The list is also a very good resource and you should always be aware that it's available to answer any questions you may have either about diet or care. Good luck, in a few days either Sherry or I will lock down this thread but be aware that you can always look through it as a reference tool but you just will not be able to post to it. Your mentor will be in to congratulate you shortly (wave) . ciao