You can start with the rest of the ingredients, just make a smaller batch. Do you have some boneless chicken breasts on hand? Purée one and use that in the meanwhile. At least it will be a start. As for liver, most grocery stores should carry liver. Wal-Mart carries deveined calf liver in the frozen section.
goodness that sounds vulgar! ill pick some up sunday lol. I added a piece this morning in there kibble stew, ill be able to check back around 4pm when aric gets home from work Ill letcha know what they thought
Okay were on hand-fed chicken puree now (dance), ran out of kibble so hoping I can keep them on this soup and not have to buy anymore kibble its 25 bucks for a small bag of zupreem, and id rather spend that 25 on meats lol
I haven't been able to get out and get liver and heart yet, I have breast and eggshells, tomorrow I have the day off so ill be spending it hunting with the ferts for a good butcher, yayyy haha.
Yay! That is great. (dance) If they are eating that then no need for any more kibble! Definitely get some liver and heart in there soon though. If you have trouble finding heart, a taurine supplement is a must. I would honestly suggest having some on hand anyways. It is a vital nutrient; it never hurts to supplement with a little extra (taurine content of meat is degraded in the freezer), and it is smart to have on hand in case you ever run low of heart and can't restock right away. Brain is a good taurine source too so if you can find that it is a great meat to have in the organ rotation. My boys love pork brains. Definitely one of my least favorite meats to feed, but it is one of the best (healthiest, super nutrient packed) for them to eat.
Ill look for some or just order online, i FINALLY found a butcher right down the road of all places that have specialty meats like liver heart and such ill ask for brains as well and there all natural grass fed meats, none of that pink slime gmo filled crap they call meat, ill never buy from hannafords again! lol today will have to be chicken again so ill post with any new updates as soon as i can
Were trying hamburger today, wish us luck lol aric will be hanfeeding them, ill be at work all day but when I get home ill letcha know, so far they've been doing really well without the kibble they seem to be much more active and deffinatley closer to me since handfeeding, they actually napped on the couch with me yesterday and that NEVER happens, Thursday im going to take them to the vet by my house and get them weighed and ill let you know (:
the boys are now eating hamburg too, handfed only though not out of the bowl yet
but I had a question about there poo I know to expect werid different ones but is it supposed to be really small "plops" and liquidy? dax poo'd yesterday and it was just a drop but it was really dark and red his butt looks fine though. And is it supposed to smell this bad? I had to light incents yesterday there den smells so vulgar no matter how many times I clean it up, idk if its the new litter or just there new diet.. ?
Don't light incense. All incense uses essential oils which are toxic to ferrets and cats. Raw diet DOES make them smell better but unfortunately hey go through an initial detox phase during which they smell 10x worse. Hang in there! lol There's actually a wrap threads floating around the board about it. The detox phase sucks, but I promise it will get a million times better with time. Sometimes it's a few days, sometimes a few weeks.
They are absorbing more of what they eat, so their poops will be smaller. They will also be strange for a while as their digestive systems adjust. The red color concerns me a bit though. What did he eat before that poop? Is there any way you can get a picture? It would be just meat and blood passing through, or it could be stress poop or upset tummy. A picture of the poop would be super helpful, I could give you a better idea. Keep an eye on them and make sure they are all eating and playing.
Also, don't forget to post your weekly post including weight check, activity level, and food intake (types and amounta) as described in the mentoring program sign up.
Any more luck with organs and hearts? Are you still giving the dried liver treats regularly? Can you give me an updated list of all of the foods they are eating and which ones they will eat freely be hand fed?
And yes, hand feeding is great for bonding. The switch really helps deepen most people's connections with their ferrets.
My bad aw man i love my insence! ah well babies first lol, well that makes me feel better ill have to go read up on some of em, i think its the litter to its "yesterdays newspaper" from purina it was the only natural cat litter walmart had and its GROSS, it makes there pee smell raunchy, let alone the poo lol
There still small and kinda watery, but i havent seen anymore red dax had been eating chicken before that one ive already trashed it but ill take poo pictures if i see anything unusual like that again. And i have never had liver treats just raw liver, that i left out on accident earlier this week, but if i can find that thread id make them some (: This weeks been rough i JUST found a butcher finally that carries what i need but this week its just been
+Kibble soup-sunday, monday +Chcken puree- tuesday morning - hamburg-night +Hamburg-wednesday morning chcken slightly chunkier- night +thursday(today) hamburg this morning, and going out to get liver tonight
All of this was hanfed besides the kibble soup, Novak has no issue eating from the bowl but marcellus and dax will only eat chicken out of the bowl and they both seem to dislike hamburg they cough and gag when i try to feed it to them, i have to scruff them to get them to even lick it so im gonna find an alternative.
Ok here are there weekly updates!
Dax 3 1/2 rescue
Weight: 2.0 pounds even, Activity: off the wall! learned how to "superman" out of his den, wrestles, and war dances again (:, prior to the raw and the giant blanket poo he was lethargic, slept alot and never danced, deff an improvement overall FI: less than with kibble, chowed alot when fed kibble, now he eats about every 3 or 4 hours and about a golf ball size amount at a time.
Marcellus 3 1/2 rescue, came with dax
Weight:also 2.0 pounds even Activity: Always been the hyper one, but has gotten lazy with the summer heat, wrestles with the baby ALOT, stands up to see you more<3, always been a active ferret havent seen much of an increase yet. FI: About the same as dax, handfed golf ball amounts, eats every 3-4 hours.
Novak 15 weeks adopted from pet store
Weight: 2.4 pounds (porker!) but he is a growing baby lol, Activity: GOGOGO at all times, as soon as he's awake hes runnin, jumpin, dooking and chasing us and the boys around, loves to get into EVERYTHING FI: novak has no problem scarfing the entire dish lol, he eats everything kibble(not anymore mice, marrow bones, chicken, beef you name it he loves it so id say about a lime sized amount per meal he eats every 2 1/2-3 hours (i leave a bowl in there den just in case) and hes usually the only one eatin out of it.
If im missing anything let me know ill have a set menu tommorow, payydayy lol
Great. As for them not being huge fans of the hamburger, that isn't too surprising as it is much more strongly flavored than chicken. Keep it up though. You should give some pork and turkey a try next. Turkey is very similar to chicken so most will take to it pretty easily once they are eating chicken. Pork is different but still pretty mildly flavored so it also tends to be fairly quick to introduce.
Sorry about the liver confusion. You and another mentee are about at the same place in the switch food-wise so I got confused. Lol Have you mixed the liver into the soup mix yet? What about hearts? Definitely need to get both of those in the rotation soon. Also for the poops, on a strictly soup diet I'm not too surprised they are soft, just keep monitoring them. Are you adding powdered eggshell or some other calcium supplement to the soup? If so how much? Increasing it a little should help firm up their poops a bit. Shoot for 1/4 tsp powdered eggshell per ferret per day. If their poops are still on the runny side, bump it up a little. Up to 1/2 tsp per ferret per day.
In regards to your litter.... Blech! Lots of people here rave about Yesterday's News and I honestly can't tell you why. I hate the paper pellet litters. If you want a good pellet litter I recommend Feline Pine. It has BY FAR the BEST odor control of any litter I have tried - and I have tried several. The downside is it turns into dust when it gets wet (makes it easy to tell dirty from clean litter though), and as with any pellet litter you will waste some good with the bad. Personally I use FP for my out of cage boxes and the travel cage. In the age I use Swheat Scoop multi-cat. It is a safe scoopable litter, so less waste and less $ spent on new bags of litter overall. Also very good for odor control. World's Best multi-cat is good too but I find Swheat Scoop to have better odor control personally. They are also both flushable, so you don't waste litter bags or have smelly litter in your trash. Makes for easy clean up and disposal.
Were off to the butcher today finally, and we'll have all we need for a variety (: mama's makin homemade tonight lol,
ive been using eggshells, ill try a little more this time around,and im thinkin its beacause its cheap hamburg i can feel the slime on my hands just preparing it, but it was all we could get im ready to toss it though if i wont eat it why should they
& thank you! koda and kenai are absolutley handsome boys too!
We picked up chicken breasts and mixed liver/hearts, beef liver, and ground beef, gonna feed them organ tonight, and soup tomorrow am (we'll both be at work until aric gets out at 4) so im gonna leave the soup a bit frozen so it lasts threwout the day until aric can get home and change it. And when I get home I wanna try beef again, so ill letcha know