Name:Zeus Weight: 0.86 kg Current Diet: Evo ferret Activity Level: Awake 3-4 hrs daily. Very active for about 1 hour/day. Other times just wandering around or flatting. Current Stool Shape/Size: Ever since feeding him the soup we have noticed that his stool is somewhat runny. He also has been peeing more frequently.
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Name: Cyrus Weight: 0.71 kg Current Diet: Evo Ferret Activity Level: Awake 4 - 5 hrs daily. Very active for about 2 hours/day. Other times just wandering around. Current Stool Shape/Size: Her stool hasn't changed since she refuses to eat the soup. Her stool is usually pretty normal. Always a light brown colour. Size varies.
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I've tried posting the pictures a couple times now and for some reason they don't seem to be uploading. Is there a certain way to do this? I've never been an active member on a forum before so I'm quite new at this.
Thanks for the info. Zeus's stool will go through all kinds of Changes so don't be alarmed, it's just part of the raw switch process. He will also per a lot more because he is getting way more hydration from the raw than from the kibble.
For pictures: you can either attach them to the post directly via the attach image button. Or you need to post them on a picture site (photobucket etc) and then copy the picture URL and surround it with [ IMG ] uRl goes here [/ IMG] but with no spaces. Let me know if that works.
How is cyrus doing? Are you still getting her to taste the soup? Have you tried oil? Have you tried moistening the kibble?
It does have to be extra virgin olive oil, it's way better for them. But a salmon or fish oil is really important to have in the diet too at least once or twice a week so you could get either one for right now. Just to warn you some don't like the olive oil and it needs to mixed 50/50 with fish oil anyways.
We had success today with Cyrus! She ate the soup off Justin's finger with some olive oil on it at first, but then she was licking it off his finger without any olive oil.
I tried to find fish oil and all I could find was "cod liver oil". Is that what we need? If not, where do we find fish oil?
When I go to the "Upload an Image" line right above where you input your replies, I browse to find the picture that we want to upload of the ferrets. Then I press "Host it" and it says its loading, but then it gives this error " You must provide a valid auth token or dev key. see code.google.com/p/imageshackapi/ "
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That is fantastic! Definitely moving in the right direction for sure!
Now what you want to do is to work them both off to eating the soup on their own out of a bowl or off a plate. What you will want to do with Cyrus, is keep offering it off the finger and gradually work her up to taking it off a spoon. Once she is taking it off of a spoon, you can slowly lower the spoon as she is eating into the bowl/plate then slowly sneak it away, until she is just eating off the plate/dish.
Cod liver oil is Not a good oil to use because it contains the same things as liver, as therefore they would be getting too much liver. What you would want to get is a salmon oil. The best place to get this is either a pet health food store (places that sell more natural pet products) or a human health food store. You just want to make sure it's pure salmon oil and from a natural, reputable source.
The extra virgin olive oil can be given everyday but no more than 1/4 - 1/2 tsp per ferret per day. And then the you can swap it out for fish oil 2-3 days a week.
As for the photos, I'm going to get one of our forum techs to read your last post and contact you about how to make them work because I'm not sure what's going wrong.
Ok sorry about that Steph. Justin and I have just been really busy the past few days but we wont let it happen again.
Nothing much has changed though. Zues still likes to eat it (he likes it more than his regular food) and cyrus will eat it off one of our fingers with some oil the same way as I explained above. She isn't at Zeus' stage yet but soon hopefully!
No worries, and every second day is fine if you are busy and nothing changes.
Now normally, at this stage with Zeus, we could put him straight on raw and remove the kibble. But since they are cage mates and Cyrus won't eat raw on her own, we can't exactly do that... So let's try catch Cyrus up with Zeus.
The best way to do this is to use hunger as a motivator. Since Cyrus and Zeus are otherwise healthy, I want you to try removing both of their kibble for 3-4 hours. And then try offering the raw. Let Zeus eat as much raw soup as he wants after this period and don't replace the kibble for 30 minutes - an hour afterwards (he won't be hungry anyways after filling up on raw). Now with Cyrus, who should be hungry after this time period, try and work her up to spoon feeding. Give the raw soup with oil off of your fingers and then try to sneak a spoon with raw soup in there with oil on top. If she take this well, let her eat as much soup as she wants as well, and if she's doing well, try slowly lowering the spoon onto a plate with raw soup and then removing the spoon completely slowly.
Let me know after you try this and how this goes and then depending on that I can let you know the next step!
1. How long can we keep the grinded up egg shells for? Where do we store them? Also, is it ok for the thin layer of skin inside the egg to stay on or should we make sur to remove it all before grinding?
2. I weighed the hearts today and our scale says one heart is .25 oz. On your recipe you said that we need one heart or 1oz of heart. So, is our scale wrong or do we need to add 4 hearts or is 1 heart enough? Also, approx how many oz would you say one chicken breast is? Our scale says that 1 is approx 8 oz but Im not sure if that is right.. especially since I am weighing it frozen.
I'm actually not 100% sure on the egg shell shelf life and storage because I've never used them myself (I use bone meal instead because I don't eat eggs due to a severe intolerance) but I'll find out and let ya know
1 decent sized chicken breast should weigh about 8oz, don't worry too much if it's a tad off.
The recipe actually calls for 2 chicken hearts, but go ahead and use 4. Hearts contain taurine which is super important and you really can't overdose.