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Post by Sherry on Apr 14, 2013 16:35:52 GMT -5
18 months unfortunately isn't too you g for adrenal However I would seriously consider having him checked for cryptorchid first, and if that's not it then you know it's unfortunately adrenal. My problem with going directly to the des/lupron is that it would mask a missed testicle which could cause major problems later. And given that he was sliming, etc- rule that out first.
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Post by katt on Apr 14, 2013 17:10:14 GMT -5
18 months unfortunately isn't too you g for adrenal However I would seriously consider having him checked for cryptorchid first, and if that's not it then you know it's unfortunately adrenal. My problem with going directly to the des/lupron is that it would mask a missed testicle which could cause major problems later. And given that he was sliming, etc- rule that out first. Very true!
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Post by Heather on Apr 14, 2013 17:25:51 GMT -5
I agree, totally. It could very well be a retained testicle, cryptorchid. Having had a dog with this issue (rescue), it should be seen to. Mushu, had his removed (along with an alter done at the time). It took the vet almost an hour to find the stupid little thing and when she did it has already started to turn into something nasty . She figured that it would have been cancer very soon. Tundra, that wee boy needs to have that testicle found and removed. My present vet and I were actually discussing just this thing when we first started treating Azrael 8 months ago. Seemingly, when this occurs the testicle is often in an odd location. Given that when Marshals (I bet the other farms do this too) alters their ferrets, they only use vets to oversee the whole proceedings (techs do the actual alter) I will bet something like a missing testicle would not be something they would care about (lets face it they've messed up the removal of the glands, left ovaries in spays....what's a testicle or two ) When we did a bit of research (got to love getting access to vet sites) seemingly this does occur. The DES will stop the process (season) but.....it won't stop the cancer when the testicle goes bad. Seemingly the probability of this occurring is very high. I don't know if you can xray and see this wayward testicle (I'm doubting....but maybe ultrasound??) or if you have to actually go looking for it (not good). As Sherry mentioned this ferret isn't too old to be adrenal but you've mentioned that this occurred last year at this time too? ciao
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 19:06:04 GMT -5
When I asked the vet about it, I called it an undescended testicle, and after he felt around the area he said no, it's not that, an undescended testicle can cause all sorts of problems and has to be removed, it's [ ] . It's some other thing that I can't remember, that apparently the vet thinks doesn't require surgery. Thanks for the concern though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 3:02:19 GMT -5
What are the other symptoms of Adrenal? So that I can look for them. He seems completely healthy other than his spring time change. He is now almost on raw diet, 2 years old, an shows no other signs of anything else. Is adrenal, besides hair loss and sexual anger, having other symptoms? He only gets like this in springish, and last year he was almost 1 and it was worse than this year. This year is pretty tamer compared actually. @yurei Avalon: I actually saw a slide show once linked to me through Tumblr . com - unfortunately it was PETA so who knows what was staged or not (after they admitted the skinning alive vids were staged and paid off to shock us I hold them of no credibility) - of I think Marshals or that Triple- something mill where they had video and pics of lazy people cutting corners - some ferrets got fed others got skipped, some roamed freely, no one bothered to pick them up - some fighting and no one bothering to help, all that sorta stuff. Maybe if they cut corners in those situations, maybe they do so with the surgical manners. I mean, if you miss a testicle in one male, someone's mindset would be "well, if they get a female from us, he couldn't mate her anyways as she is spayed, so I won't bother with finding this other one."
Then again, maybe Adrenal, so I will get him checked out sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 6:33:55 GMT -5
I've heard the ferret farm stuff is true, but I will not believe one word PETA says. Likely a lot of it was true, but some of it was could have been hyped up to look worse than it was if they were working with an employee on the inside.
Adrenal can also cause behavioral changes, not just sexual ones as well as causing problems urinating in males due to prostrate swelling.
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Post by Sherry on Apr 15, 2013 9:19:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately it was true enough for a number of charges to be laid(PETA). TBH weaselwoman, I'd have him checked for that cryptorchid before anything else, since that can be more immediately dangerous.
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Post by crazylady on Apr 15, 2013 13:38:12 GMT -5
Hi His second year wont be as intense as his first the first year is like a teenager realising hey I am a man lol by year two they know there men ans show it more by trying to mate and getting more greasy and smelly take care bye for now Bev
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Post by nanjferret on May 5, 2013 16:43:20 GMT -5
If you talk with any of the vets that have done done post degree internships at the "farms" yes everything that has been said is in fact true , and then some. A testicle can be way up in the abdomen as said and when the farm ferrets are neutered at such a young age issues can happen. At 6 weeks old there is nothing to really see so a quick "slice and dice " is done on all of the babies to fix them. The big key here I think is the oiliness. An intact male will smell very strong and be much oilier in the skin and fur this time of year.
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