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Post by miamiferret2 on Mar 29, 2013 20:55:59 GMT -5
that is good! i figured you would have a much easier time than some folks since your ferrets are still kits. i would print out that menu above (the frankenprey menu that sherry drafted up) and stick it on your refrigerator. it is a very good method to follow to make sure it is balanced. have you been able to find any hearts? i saw some at walmart the other day believe it or not. chicken hearts. i was walking through the meat section and i saw livers and hearts.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 21:18:13 GMT -5
I wish, at the walmarts here you can get livers and gizzard/heart packed together. I do have about 10-12 hearts left, so hopefully these will last until I can order from Hare Today and it arrives.
I will print out the menu and put it up on fridge and in ferret room (in case kids take it down to put up pictures or awards).Thanks
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Post by miamiferret2 on Mar 29, 2013 23:15:52 GMT -5
i like to feed only one protein each day. that way if something is causing an issue i can tell which meat it is. but i know alot of people will mix proteins.
have you gotten them to try eating beef or venison? or veal. those are other proteins you can try on them. they can't handle beef bones though so just use that for muscle meat meals. i don't like ground beef though. don't trust ground beef from the grocery stores. i will buy actual steaks and mince it up myself. you can use rib eye or flank steak. skirt steak.
if you have a petco near you , usually they sell frozen mice. not sure how you feel about feeding actual critters but it is another protein that you can add to their rotation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 9:39:21 GMT -5
I'm okay with it, but i would have to make sure my kids are not home. My girls are pretty sensitive to that stuff. But they are fine with live crickets and meal worms to our lizards. I think because they are not fuzzy. , that is why snakes are not allowed, my oldest (she's 12) saw a python kill and eat a rat one time and she went hysterical in the store. should I get pinkies to start? today they are getting: skittles and sweet tart- boneless pork aj- quail and some small slivers of pork |
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Post by miamiferret2 on Mar 30, 2013 18:46:21 GMT -5
Pinkies are ok to start with for snacks/special treats but adult mice and rats are preferred. Pinkies do not have developed bones and will not supply the calcium that ferrets require.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Mar 30, 2013 18:47:00 GMT -5
You dont have to use mice or rats though. I am just giving you some ideas for different proteins. :-)
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 1, 2013 21:36:23 GMT -5
I wish, at the walmarts here you can get livers and gizzard/heart packed together. I do have about 10-12 hearts left, so hopefully these will last until I can order from Hare Today and it arrives. I will print out the menu and put it up on fridge and in ferret room (in case kids take it down to put up pictures or awards).Thanks Heather the admin here mentioned something about the yahoo groups or lists where you can possibly find raw co-ops in your town. maybe you can find raw hearts and different types of organs through a list like that. i am not on any yahoo groups as i find them to be very un-user friendly. each ferret should get about 2-3 ounces of raw hearts each week IMO. if not, then give 250 mg of taurine per ferret each day. some people give more than that (500 mg per ferret-- break up into two doses of 250 each morning and night). taurine is a water soluble amino acid so whatever they don't use is flushed out in their urine. you can't really over dose on it. best to give taurine from natural sources such as heart muscle. but if you can't find it definitely keep giving the taurine supps. what brand are you using for taurine? you mentioned you got it at the Vitamin Shoppe. I like to use the NOW brand. I get it on amazon.com really cheap. that brand does not use any weird ingredients. just pure taurine. it would probably be easier for you to just feed all of your ferrets the same meals every day. that way it is easier to keep track of their frankenprey menu. i can imagine that it is tough to feed different things to them each day. i noticed that you are feeding the new boy different meals than the others. any reason why you are doing that? does he not like the same types of proteins that you feed the others? when you get a chance, like next week or something, post a full week's menu so that I can see what they have been eating in a full week. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 18:40:24 GMT -5
sorry it has been a few days. I have been following that menu this week so far.also i have opened my fn up, so they are not seperated anymore. that also means they all get the same food now.
monday:
am-3 quail cut up
pm-3 chicken wings cut up and 1 hanging
tuesday:
am-2 quail cut up and 1 chicken wing cut up
pm- 8oz boneless pork cut into strips
today:
am- 8oz of chicken heart (had a friend and her family give me a bunch of hearts from her packs of gizzards they were cooking for a family get together)
pm- chicken breast bones (ribs, cartilage, skin, and what meat i didn't get from deboning split breasts for our dinner) and 1 chicken wing cut up 1 hanging
they each had a little coconut oil today for nail cutting
i will try to weigh them tommorow.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 3, 2013 22:55:46 GMT -5
awesome! you are doing great! so they are crunching bones already then? you must be a proud momma!
pictures please? I am a picture freak. I sit at work and look at pictures of ferrets on google. i have issues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 11:20:50 GMT -5
I weight them today (they were wiggle worms today ;D): Skittles-700g Sweet tart-1062g Aj-557g Thursday: am-goat with bone meal added it also had bones that i crushed up but was not sure they would eat them pm-chicken feet 2 hanging and 3 wings (1 hanging 2 cut up) today: am- 3 quail cut up (I hang the legs for them they seem to like it |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 11:26:47 GMT -5
I ordered from hare today this morning so i should get it around next thursday. i ordered: 1 x Ground Chicken/Bones/Organs, 1 lb 1 x Ground Duck/Bone/Organs, 1 lb 1 x Beef Kidney, 2 lb 1 x Ground Rabbit/Bones/Organs, 1 lb 1 x Chicken Necks, 2 lbs 1 x Chicken Hearts, 2 lbs 1 x Quail Feet, 30 feet per bag 1 x Dehydrated Beef Lung 1 x Whole Carcass Ground Quail, 1 lb so i hopefully will be set for a little bit at least 2-4 weeks. |
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 5, 2013 12:56:45 GMT -5
i would keep on top of Skittles because her weight is going down. make sure that she is eating. she is a kit and i would not expect her to lose weight during transition phase! if you see that someone is losing weight it means they are not eating enough or something else wrong. but in her case since you are changing her diet and bc she is so young (approx 14 weeks of age) i would think that it is bc she is not eating enough. on 3/26 skittles was 760 g. today she is 700 g. --make sure she is eating enough. i would say 1 to 1.5 ounces each meal at least. on 3/26 sweet tart was 922 g and today she is 1062. so she has gained some. on 3/26 AJ weighed 340 g and now he weighs 557 g. so he is good. obviously a baby still.  |
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 5, 2013 13:03:17 GMT -5
i see you got rabbit and duck. the duck should put some weight on them bc it is fatty. and you have raw hearts from Hare Today. awesome. i bet you can't wait for your order to arrive.  |
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 6, 2013 21:48:15 GMT -5
I asked the admins and the other mods here and they agree that since these are kits they should be gaining weight not losing. kits continue to grow and gain weight until they are 6-8 months old. and they are at their biggest/heaviest their first year. so please stay on top of Skittles. make sure she is eating adequate portions.
give her fatty meats. duck and lamb if you can find those. feed the chicken with the skin on it. also you can give her a bit of goats milk every day. ferrets love goats milk.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 11:34:06 GMT -5
Hi sorry it's been so long, i have gotten some goat's milk and skittles really likes it.i have been seperating her for meal times to make sure she eats. i will try to weigh her again today i just need to catch her sleeping. my order came today and it is all weighed out into meals. I am still using the menu friday 4/5: pm-boneless pork sat: am-chicken wings cut up pm- 3 chicken thighs cut off of bone sun: am-2 chicken backs cut up pm-soup made of chicken livers and pig brains pretty thin i also added a little coconut oil to get them interested. they liked it mon: am- chicken backs and chicken feet pm-2 quail halved and 1 chicken back cut up tues: am-goat with bones crushed and bonemeal pm-goat without bones cut up wed: am-2 chicken backs cut up and 2wings cut up 1 hanging Sorry I didn't post this weekend we had a birthday weekend for our youngest daughter (she turned 8). We went to an exhibit called Discover the Dinosaurs on Saturday and then had a small party with our neighbors on Sunday for her. We are now on spring break here, we have it after Easter here because of the Masters Golf Tournament. The traffic is horrible this week here.  |
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