Post by ferreholic on Oct 25, 2012 23:14:25 GMT -5
Anybody ever have an oversedated fert before? I know how sleepy they can be after sedation, but Bandit just won't get up. For his xrays today they gave him a bit of valium mixed with I think morphine - he wasn't fully asleep, just really really out of it. But since we've been home he simply doesn't want to get up. I actually got a bit worried this afternoon when he peed all over himself and the couch (I had him laying beside me when I was trying to hand feed my prima-donna Mischief). I FINALLY was able to get him up and moving a little bit about 4 hours after his sedation and he ate a little for me, but of course went right back to sleep. It took him another hour to even be able to use his back legs again (he could barely walk much less hold himself up when pottying). He can walk fine now, though still can't hold himself up to pee very well on the hardwood (yeah, I know, bad non-litter using babies). But besides getting up to potty he just goes right back to his easy sleep spot 5 feet from his potty spot. I tried to wake him up to eat twice more and only on the second try would he wake up. I'm not too worried about this, but it still bothers me to see my baby so out of it for so long. Anybody else ever have this happen?
We've only ever had two sedations done. One was a bump sedation where they bring them right back out. The other was for an X-ray for a blockage. The first was fine by the time we left the office. The second slept a lot for a day or so, but she was also exhausted from finally passing the blockage. I think I'd see how he's doing tomorrow and if he's still the same take him back in.
When our ferret got a tooth pulled, she was very sleepy for about 24-36 hrs. When she did this, I just checked her breathing, heart beat and gum color but let her sleep while I checked these things. I then woke her up every 3 hrs to get some food and water into her.
I posted on the phone. Between auto correct and accidently hitting "send", that's what came up ;D What I'd tried to type in was "bump sedation". What came out was "feet ions". Don't ask me! Don't have a clue what autocorrect was thinking!
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If your little one ever gets morphine or any opiod again, it can be reversed if the sedative effect is too strong. I've had a couple of mine get torb for sedation; it knocks them on their butt for hours... But it does eventually wear off.
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Yes. After Pippin had surgery they gave me a painkiller, it turns out it was something like 3-5x too strong or something INFURIATING I brought him in, he slept and was totally dazed and out of it, and when he was awake he had serious tremors. It seriously made me so freaking mad. He would either be totally conked out or tweaking. My poor bub.
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Post by bibliophiliac on Oct 26, 2012 9:16:58 GMT -5
We have had a couple sedations for surgery and x-rays (sedation for the one who bites).
The first night we brought either home, they were pretty out of it. They would try to get up and just slump back down. Heck, they couldn't even stand on their back legs to eat the food (one food bowl they have to stand to reach, the other sits on the ground on another level). So we had to switch the food bowls. Then one of them climbed down the FN ramp...and couldn't get back up.
I called the vet about it and they said to just watch for pale or pink gums (or blue), heartbeat, and make sure they did eat and drink. So we did and within 36 hours each had been better. They both slept most of the first 24 hours, then they slowly got more energetic, but they were still flat-ferreting quite a bit.
So, if you are worried I would call the vet. Either that, just keep an eye on him. Hope he is all right
When Sid had his xrays done I don't know what the vet gave him. I thought he was going to die. On the way home I ran into a different vet. I really thought he was going to die. They gave him something like ferretvite for the sugar. It turns out that instead of waiting for the first shot to take effect he gave him a second shot of something. I held him all the way home, keeping him warm. It took 24 hours for it to wear off. I don't take my ferrets to that vet anymore. My current vet just holds the ferrets while she takes an xray of them. She wears this funky suit when she does it.
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Odin was given a bump, so was Napoleon...neither were out for any length of time and came out swinging (so to speak) As for xrays....I hold them they shoot the pics....and yes, I wear a funky suit ;D ciao
Post by ferreholic on Oct 26, 2012 13:28:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I asked if they could just hold Bandit instead of sedating him because he is SUCH a calm fert, but my vet said that OSHA doesn't allow this - they don't want the techs to undergo radiation like this as frequently as they would have to (kinda a lame excuse as this would only work for smaller animals like ferts anyway, but I understand the law and the fact that they follow it to a T at my vet). I haven't offered to hold him myself, but I don't think they would allow it. The only time my vet lets me go anywhere 'behind the scene' it is to look at the xrays themselves which we can only do on a special comp in the back room. He did actually let me stay in the back and watch them scrap and take a staining of Bandit's mast cell tumor, but that was a first.
My previous vet used to be all about legaleeze and how they weren't allowed to let people in the back and all that stuff. With my present vet, I've done everything from hold my guys for xrays to assist on tooth extractions to minor suturing. I'm not allowed to assist on surgeries because I'm just not trained in the field and the ferret is out but I can watch if I want ciao