Post by hurricanekatt on Oct 6, 2012 12:10:39 GMT -5
I just feel bad for putting them through the long trip, and a weekend in unfamiliar surroundings...all of the stress isn't going to help anything! At the very least their travel cage will be familiar, but since I have one cage and 2 groups of ferrets, and now that Kenai is recovering from surgery, I CAN'T put them all in the cage together like I had planned. This means one pair will be in their small carrier. Shane pointed out that we can rotate them out, so that is better, but not ideal. At least they usually sleep most of the way there anyways...
I tried to feed Kenai again this morning. He is really rejecting things. He hacks the metro right up, even if he swallows it. He also will no longer take FerretVite, which is like Crack to them, because he associates it with metro! Neither vet was in last night or tonight, but Dr. M who did Koda's surgery should be in tomorrow night so hopefully I can get a hold of her. I would like to know more about what is going on, how to prevent it, whether we can do a different abx, and when or if I can give pepto as he is still grinding his teeth. I'm going to hunt down an exotics vet, and an emergency vet up in Fairbanks too just in case (goodness forbid) anything should happen while we are up there. If he doesn't get better soon though, I don't know what I will do.
I have spoken with Bob Church on FB as well. He agrees that it sounds like a bad heliobacter infection and his best guess for the goo is right in line with what everyone here has been thinking - that it was partially digested food, possibly backed up from his digestion being slowed down due to the heliobacter infection. So now how do I PREVENT this from happening again?!
I know metro works the fastest but maybe you need something less stressful. Your boy a sensitive type? He should have been feeling the effects of the meds by now and you should be seeing an improvement of his appetite. ciao
Post by hurricanekatt on Oct 7, 2012 5:54:32 GMT -5
Heather be is very sensitive, but I can't do anything until the vet gets back in tomorrow night. On a happier note, I put some food in the little cage before we took off for our trip and Kenai ate a little on his own! It wasn't much, but it's the first time I've seen him show any motivation to feed himself since the surgery. It's a start!
Post by hurricanekatt on Oct 7, 2012 6:13:55 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that the ferrets (all 4) made it okay. We only had one accident (pee no poo) from the babies who ended up going the whole way in their medium carrier (I put a hammock in it and water bottle). After his initial few nibbles of food Kenai stopped eating and I haven't seen him go for it again... I wish I could have given him longer before we loaded them up but it was already late and we had to go. I kept the food in during the trip but the only one who ate any was Hazel when I put her in to try and go potty. lol Kenai slept the whole way. There are two poops in the box though and I didn't see Hazel do anything but eat in the short period I had her in the cage. The poops are drastically different, but both decent poops, so I REALLY hope one is Koda's and one is Kenai's... Fingers crossed Kenai eats on his own tonight!!!! I will hand feed him in the morning just in case...
Post by hurricanekatt on Oct 7, 2012 6:51:51 GMT -5
Okay I couldn't do it. I couldn't sleep until I KNEW Kenai ate something. As much as I want him to be a bit hungry and motivated to eat on his own, I just didn't trust that he'd eat at all, much less enough on his own. So I got up and hand fed him some chicken soupies and he ate 7 spoons!!!! That's the most he's eaten in one sitting yet! Granted I'm not using the same spoon since I'm at my mom's, but the spoon I used was very similar in size to the one I've been using with him at home. He acts hungry, but he will only eat if I scruff him and hold him belly up, and even then he has to take breaks to grind his teeth. I think he is hungry but his stomach hurts. Hopefully I can get a hold of the vet tomorrow night. Or tonight really since it's 4am here. He is sending such mixed messages. He seems bright and alert and happy when be is awake (haven't given him much opportunity to be active), but he continues to sleep most of the day (at least when I have been home). He acts hungry, but he won't eat. He's like a little kid who REALLY wants to play and eat birthday cake but can't because he has the stomach flu... My poor Baby-Butt!
I'm glad everything went well and you got to your destination. I'm sorry that Kenai still isn't feeling very well but he is eating when you feed him. I wish that he tummy would settle and stop making him fell so nauseas ciao
Post by weloveourweasels on Oct 7, 2012 17:34:47 GMT -5
Just thought I would add that you can get the metro compounded with tutti fruity flavor it is the best to help mask the bitterness. Also you need to get a really tight scruff when giving the meds i don't mix or mask instead I save the oil or ferrevite as a chaser. Put the syringe at the hinge of his mouth between the gum and back incisor and press the plunger as slow as possible trying to allow drops in at a time vs. getting a big mouthful and spitting it allover. Then give him a chaser and offer water, a little goats milk or soup.
Post by hurricanekatt on Oct 11, 2012 3:06:45 GMT -5
Just an update. Sorry, it's been a whirlwind with the trip out of town. Thankfully did not have to go to the vet up there. Koda is doing almost 100% better. I really think it must have been either bad meat, some bug, or more likely, just stress. Putting the boys back together was definitely the best thing I could have done. Kenai still had to be hand fed while I was giving the antibiotics, and I thought I was going to probably have to get a new Rx. I really don't think he got the full course of metro because he gagged it back up, even AFTER swallowing it! Well I stopped the meds, and he started eating! Slowly at first, but his appetite seems to be improving based on the amount of food the 2 of them have gone though. When we got back home I let them out, and they both went nuts. I think they are so happy the babies are gone and they are back home. They are both full of energy and seem SO much happier!