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Post by darlene on Sept 2, 2012 22:55:35 GMT -5
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Post by mustelidblues on Sept 2, 2012 23:13:38 GMT -5
Interesting, I've seen the product before but personally think there are better ways to keep teeth clean. Carrageenan is certainly a hot button ingredient and I'm mostly cautious but undecided on it. For those kibble-feeders using it, I'd probably suggest Wysong Denta-Treat instead. Similar idea, but more wholesome. Naturally, raw bones are the absolute best at dental care, but for the FHL group that idea usually gets knocked down pretty harshly 
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Post by Guest on Sept 2, 2012 23:18:51 GMT -5
I've been using Maxi-Gaurd and have talked to a few people about it who find nothing objectionable about it..
Mike
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Post by suzie on Sept 3, 2012 0:37:21 GMT -5
I have used the oxyfresh with Hunter, my oldest, who had horrible tartar, gums and would not use chews or eat bone. I found that there were no ill effects on him from this use and the condition of his teeth and breath improved and he now crunches bones with the rest. No longer need the oxyfresh, but I would do it again.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Sept 3, 2012 9:24:58 GMT -5
Barb Carlson has MANY MANY ferrets in her rescue. She has been using oxyfresh pet gel for years with no problems. I will not stop using it. the amount that i put on the cat toothbrush is minimal.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Sept 3, 2012 9:32:31 GMT -5
Most of the time when they do these studies they will give lab rats LARGE amounts of something and then they will report that the rats developed x. If you use this gel a teeny bit on a toothbrush once a week, it is not the same as giving lab rats huge doses of the stuff every day. Carageenan is in ALOT of products, esp vegan foods, and has been for many years. Most tooth pastes have it.
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Post by mustelidblues on Sept 3, 2012 11:08:48 GMT -5
I agree Xio, amounts tested are not the same as moderate amounts ingested through using a product such as this. I myself (vegan) eat a minimal amount of carrageenan out of caution, because moderation with anything is important. Generally foods that are more processed, like faux cheeses and such, have it in them, as a thickener/binder. I think being aware of it as a possible risk is important and weighing that risk against how often/quantity used and the benefit of using the product is key for anything.
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Post by darlene on Sept 7, 2012 0:37:57 GMT -5
Thanks,I normally rely on the bone meals to clean their teeth. But since Koby has been on a ground diet for a few months now, I want to clean his teeth manually. I'm always leary of these kinds of testing,because they never seem to give any details about amounts,length of time etc the animals are exposed.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Sept 7, 2012 7:44:55 GMT -5
I first wet the toothbrush bristles with warm water, then i use a teeny tiny amount of oxyfresh and i push the oxyfresh bead into the bristles. if you saw the amount that i use on the little cat toothbrush you would prob say "why even bother?" but a little goes a kong way. he is not swallowing huge globs of the stuff. A huge glob of it would be extremely messy. i doubt he is swallowing any of it. 
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