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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 23:44:08 GMT -5
Ok, thanks.
For the sugar (lumene I guess this is more asked of you) do I leave the sugar on? Or dab it off after ~10 min?
Might I add, I am SUPER nervous to touch his butt in fear of making it worse!!! Should I wait til morning or do it now? And leave it on or dab it off after 10 min?
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Post by Sherry on Mar 4, 2012 23:55:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 0:00:33 GMT -5
Just wanted to add, it's hard to tell for sure from the pic but the "undigested chicken skin" might actually be a hair ball. Hair gets wrapped up with mucous and ends up passing looking like slimey white worms or chicken skin. If this is the case, he could still have some hair balls floating around and that could cause diarrhea if it's blocking the system at all. I would give some extra pumpkin over the next few days just to rule that out too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 0:00:48 GMT -5
oh wow that certainly puts things in perspective!!! right now he is snoozin in my lap on his back with the sugary bottom looks pretty pleased with himself to be getting special cuddles with mum! he didnt struggle or protest at all while i was applying the sugar either, what a good boy thank you all for your help idk what i'd do without yall! how often do i reapply the sugar? i believe I heard every 12 hrs somewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 0:02:10 GMT -5
Just wanted to add, it's hard to tell for sure from the pic but the "undigested chicken skin" might actually be a hair ball. Hair gets wrapped up with mucous and ends up passing looking like slimey white worms or chicken skin. If this is the case, he could still have some hair balls floating around and that could cause diarrhea if it's blocking the system at all. I would give some extra pumpkin over the next few days just to rule that out too Ok, thanks They *are* starting to shed -- fur is everywhere in their cage. I will definitely give him some extra pumpkin the next few days. But not too much because I don't want to give him diarrhea, right? Because can't super soft poops can aggravate a prolapse?
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Post by Sherry on Mar 5, 2012 0:04:44 GMT -5
Pumpkin won't give him diarrhea It will actually firm his stools up. With the sugar, do it as long as he's having a problem. With Lucrezia, she got something a bit worse than your pics, and not knowing about sugar at the time, I'd apply some vaseline, gently "push" it back in place, and put her up in the cage for about 20 minutes to relax and not put so much stress on it. Hey- it worked!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 7:26:19 GMT -5
Ok. How much more should he get and how frequently? They usually get fed 2-3 times/day depending on my work schedule & how much they're eating. His butt looks better this morning!!! It looked even better but he's since pooped (I think at least that's why) and it's poked back out a smidge. I'm still going to do another sugar treatment before I go to work. He got ~1/2 tsp extra pumpkin in his soups this morning. I just took a picture of his butt for an update...I am going to wait a few minutes and see if it pokes itself back in to where it was when I took him out of the cage this morning then take another picture It looked better than it does now (which is still better than last night, no trace of blood!!!) Thank you all SO MUCH for your support. I was really freaked out!! And my mom wasn't helping (now, if it had been one of her dogs, this scenario would have been totally different and we definitely would have been at the vet at 10pm....) Here's a happy Soxx-man, snuggling with his gramma (my mom lol)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 7:48:18 GMT -5
AM Butt Pics: (pre-sugar): (with sugar drying): Now he is sleeping on my lap
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Post by Sherry on Mar 5, 2012 10:46:40 GMT -5
Some do seem to have their rectum stick out a bit following a bowel movement, but it should go back in within a few minutes. As a rule, I give 1/2 tsp pumpkin daily anyway, to replace the fur they'd consume with whole prey. It also sounds like he maybe needs a bit more eggshell in his soup, if he's having soft stools all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 14:25:02 GMT -5
Well it's poked out a bit more again, and I'm paranoid enough that we are going to the vet before it becomes an emergency (figure it's probably less expensive to do this proactively!!!) Wish us luck that I am just being an overly paranoid ferrent!!!
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Post by Heather on Mar 5, 2012 14:49:47 GMT -5
Good luck. I hope it's nothing more than his loose stools making him prolapse slightly. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 17:02:33 GMT -5
Vet's Verdict: Not a real prolapse. He seems to have more of a protruding butt than most ferts (my guess - the vet didn't say this - is that Marshall's bunked up his descenting surgery resulting in extra protruding hind-end) and it is irritated from something, possibly his diet giving him looser poops. Sent me home with some Zymox topical spray (Hydrocortisone 1.0% -- the vet's sticker is covering most of the bottle's actual label, but after some online investigating I found the rest of the ingredients, listed below) and deferred to y'all's advice regarding a diet change/more pumpkin. Said I could keep on the sugar if I wanted, but the spray should do it. Other than that, keep a close eye on him & his poops, and call them tomorrow to let them know how he's doing. Ingredients - Zymox w/Hydrocortisone: Glycerin, Purified water, Propylene Glycol, Benzyl Alcohol, Sodium Benzoate, Zinc Gluconate, Hydrocortisone, Sodium Lauryl Sarconsinate, Aloe Vera, Glucose Oxidase, Lactoperoxidase, Lactoferrin, Lysozyme, Potassium Iodide. What do you guys think about the Zymox? Instructions are 1 spray twice a day for 5-7 days (unless it gets better before then). He sprayed some on there and already Soxx's butt doesn't look as red.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 17:04:29 GMT -5
Also, he was 2.7 lb beginning of February, and is 2.8 lb now I wish I had weighed him back when I got him in October -- no way he weighed more than Freya used to (which was 1.7). His coat is GORGEOUS now too! Yay raw! The vet was surprised to see such a generally healthy-looking (Except for his butt) 7 year old ferret
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Post by Heather on Mar 5, 2012 17:46:39 GMT -5
I have to admit that my vet was astounded too, at the condition that my guys are in when she sees them. Captain Jack totally floored her. He's been on massive doses of lasix right up until the day he was released to travel, so a good 9 months. She says most ferrets on lasix, dehydrate so badly they required subq fluids. Captain Jack was fully hydrated with a lush, soft winter coat. His gums were moist, his nose slightly damp. As she said if she wasn't aware as to how sick he was and was having difficulty with fluid retention, she would have thought of him as being an overweight ferret who was basically healthy. The blue gums, and tongue and the shallow respirations gave it way though. These are things diet can't change Raw feeding all the way.... ;D ciao
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 17:52:47 GMT -5
DEFINITELY raw feeding all the way How bout that Zymox? Is it ok to use on him? He's sleeping in my laundry hamper right now I'll check on his bum in a bit.
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