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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 21:32:46 GMT -5
So i have heard about ferret stances like Whippet, and bulldog. i have never SEEN photos of these types of ferret stances. does anyone have any pictures of the differences? i want to know, icannot find any online!
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Post by shilohismygirl on Oct 6, 2011 21:54:37 GMT -5
I have no idea what you're talking about. Care to elaborate?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 22:07:59 GMT -5
apparently there are a type of stance of ferret. like the way they stand. supposedly whippet ferrets are like Coda and have a very high arched back and look almost malnourished but are perfectly healthy. Bulldog ferrets are more stocky shorter, and have shorter bodies. also tend to be wider. I want to see more posts about this because i have a theory about it just being someones made up thing about ferrets  i want to see actuall articles and photos of the different types! i thought there was just FERRET type! |
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Post by Heather on Oct 7, 2011 1:47:33 GMT -5
They're not stances, they're body types. Greyhound, whippet and bulldog. They're used to describe body types
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 1:57:01 GMT -5
A quick Google search found this:
She calls them Gazelle and Bulldog but I think Gazelle = Whippet.
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Post by Heather on Oct 7, 2011 2:02:29 GMT -5
You're probably right. I can't pull any videos or pics right now, will have to go back later and see the video....seems the satellite that I get my internet from got fried today, and because they're still fine tuning, I keep crashing my internet if I use too much band width   ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 2:40:56 GMT -5
Hmm well I watched the video, and it wasn't that helpful.
The basic idea is that whippet ferrets are longer and thinner with a more highly-arched back and longer legs, while bulldog ferrets are stockier and possibly lower to the ground and more squat.
To me the 2 categories seem really subjective though. I don't know if these are precisely defined in the ferret breed standards or not. Maybe one of the breeders here can clear it up?
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Post by Sherry on Oct 7, 2011 10:00:16 GMT -5
The body types are not officially recognized as such. It's just how people describe their ferrets.
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Post by Heather on Oct 7, 2011 10:56:45 GMT -5
Exactly. It's subjective. The breeders are probably the best to tell you how "they" define it, but I don't think you will ever find documented proof. I know from all the fuzz that have come through here, you will see short stocky ferrets who are as they're supposed to be, you will see lean, long ferrets, narrow faces and body builds..they're not unhealthy...they just are. That's what they're supposed to be. If you see them side by side, because over here we like our little "chubs" we see the whippets as being too thin, unhealthy but that isn't the case and our lovely little chubs might be the problem but it's all about balance.
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 13:00:46 GMT -5
Yeah my nephew's boy Rosco is long and lean, even his face and head look longer and more narrow, and he's really light, but pretty wiry and strong for his size! I had him for over a week once, and had him on a rich diet with lots of meat and fat, and he hardly gained any weight. He is what I would consider a whippet, and he's perfect the way he is! He will never be a lard butt like both my boys, but then again, the whippets have their advantages. For example, he is by far the best jumper! He is impressively good at jumping onto and off of things and is extremely agile. Fiona is the same only smaller. She is very slender and keeps her thin figure (less than 1.5 lbs!), and she is really good at climbing and jumping. She's the fastest hunter of any of them, she moves lightning-fast sometimes! She is the quickest mouse killer by far! Finn on the other hand, I would have to guess would be considered a bulldog style ferret. His face, shoulders, body, are all wider and stockier. He doesn't have short legs though, and his back has a good arch to it. He may never be able to jump the way Rosco does, but he really move around! His energy level and muscularity are very good, he can go go go go for a long time without getting tired. So in his case, even though he's chunky and bulldog-ish, I think he is also perfect the way he is! He's so strong, really an impressive specimen. I suspect this is largely because he's an intact hob, and he also comes from strong stock. I think his natural beauty and vigor are really great  Then my Fenton is somewhere in between  He is chubby and bulldog-y now, but I bet a lot of it is kit chub, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Fenton slim down after this winter and start looking more like Rosco. After all, that's what Katt's boy Kenai did, and Fenton reminds me of him a lot Fenton is a special case though, being deaf and all, he is very clumsy and will never be agile no matter how thin he gets ;D He is my floppy clumsy little silly boy... I think he does really well though with the "different" abilities he was born with He sure doesn't seem to mind being deaf or clumsy, and has tons of fun! I know on this forum we like our chubby ferrets, but I think it's probably best to look at the ferrets on an individual basis, if the ferret is fat and heavy and it prevents him from doing normal ferret activities, maybe he / she could stand to slim down a little! ;D But since all of my ferrets are under 1 year of age, I don't worry about their weight just yet. I figure with kit chub, all bets are off |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 14:02:51 GMT -5
According to the info in the thread, Captain Morgan would definately be a "whippet" body type and SoCo would be a "bulldog" body type.. I didnt watch the video as I am at work though. I think Kahlua and Mojito would fall into wippet aswell but not as well as Morgan (or the foster new girl for that matter)I guess they could be the Greyhound body type that Heather mentioned?? But I don't know the indepth details of it..? When SoCo moves around, he carries himself very low to the ground (his normal gait is notably lower than any of the others) almost like he is crouching or attempting to be stealthy, lol. When Morgan and the new foster girl move around, they walk around higher- Morgan walks with such an arch in his back my mom thought that he had joint problems as a kit (he was her ferret then my friends and now mine). He looks like hes walking on his tippy toes- its more obvious in his summer coat/weight than his winter coat/weight though. Kahlua and Mojito generally walk at a normal, medium level, it doesnt look like they are crouching nor tip-toeing. They ocassionally walk around with their backs at a higher arch but not normally, I think they are of the same body-type whatever it is... lol Here are some pics, anyway, some alone and some together too so you can see the differences Kahlua (Unsure, whippet? greyhound?)  Captain Morgan (Whippet)   Mojito (Unsure, whippet? greyhound?)   SoCo (Bulldog)    One of my fav pics of SoCo when he was younger  This is what you see when SoCo runs, he is low to the ground with his feet tucked beneath him so he kinda looks like he's gliding, lol  Foster New girl (whippet) Captain Morgan and FosterNewGirl   SoCo and FosterNewGirl SoCo and Mojito Captain Morgan, Kahlua and Mojito Captain Morgan and Kahlua Captain Morgan and SoCo Kahlua and Mojito |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 15:59:23 GMT -5
OH! ok so answer me this, if i post some pictures of the ferrets standing, would you be able to tell the difference? here This is how stiv USED to  be  This is him now, not much of a difference but weight is way different. he was a baby in the first pics this is coda   I need to get standing pictures of hagrid, tubesock, and rob |
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Post by Heather on Oct 7, 2011 17:11:00 GMT -5
How old are your wee ones? Kits have a tendency to be pudgy, like Minion...he looks the bulldog but I'm seeing him lean out now. He might in the end be a grayhound type, right now he still looks the bulldog. I think Stiv might be a bulldog but Koda is a greyhound. Look at the face and how broad and deep it is, that will tell you a lot, then look at the chest and the bone. Most of my marshals kids lean toward the whippet type, moving up on the grayhound. My wee girls definitely whippet type. My RC's tend toward the bulldog. Lady "B" is either a heavy grayhound type or a bulldog for a female. She's bigger than any of my marshals boys  Thor is a bulldog type.  Short, stocky (his legs are too short but he's a waardenburg fuzz) Odin is also a bulldog type. He's not a big boy, but his bone structure is heavy, larger square head  A handful of bulldogs  Lady Sprite on the other hand is a whippet type  She never gets any fatter. She does put on a winter coat and gets fuzzier but note the light bone and frame, tiny pointed face  Mad Max, though a large ferret was a whippet type. Narrow head, lean body mass bordering on skinny (very active), very fast  I hope that helps a little bit. It's so difficult to judge if you're not handling the ferret. Pictures are sometimes difficult to judge as perception is not always accurate. ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 17:23:18 GMT -5
oh! i thought you needed pictures of the ferrets as standing! here are some of me holding them! Stiv  Rob  (waardenburgs also!!) Hagrid  Coda, this one is a bit misleading though...  here is coda agian..  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 19:20:03 GMT -5
Aww Thor has a fat face! Fatty FAT! ;D |
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