About protein and bone

[bare01]

Hello.

These are the meats that he can eat now.
　B: Duck, chicken, frog (practice: rabbit, mouse, quail)
　M: cow, deer, kangaroo, horse, lamb
　HOL: Pig, cow, chicken

Rabbits, mice, frogs and quails are expensive and cannot be prepared frequently. The bone-in he can always eat are duck and chicken.
But he doesn't want to give it too much because he seems like a constitution that makes poo loose when eating chicken.

I understand that give more than 5 different proteins in a week.
How many of them should be bone-in?

For example, how about such a protein distribution?
　B: Duck
　M: cow, deer, kangaroo, horse, lamb
　HOL: Pig, chicken

[Heather]

What are meat are you feeding when you're feeding chicken (leg, thigh, wings)? Can you get cornish game hens? Rabbit?
ciao

[bare01]

Aug 20, 2019 16:44:26 GMT -5 Heather said:

What are meat are you feeding when you're feeding chicken (leg, thigh, wings)? Can you get cornish game hens? Rabbit?
ciao

He can eat these.
　Chicken: wings, tail, thigh
　Duck: wings, neck
The chicken tail is fat and his poop is not good, so I'm thinking of removing it from the list.

Corniche is not available in my area.

Rabbits can be obtained if they are thigh meat.
However, due to the high price, the limit is 2-3 times a week.

[abbeytheferret6]

I understand that give more than 5 different proteins in a week.

4 or 5 proteins is sufficient.


Here is the frankenprey chart sample
holisticferretforum.com/natural-diet/raw-diet-the-meat-of-the-site/basic-frankenprey-menu/

If you want to, tell us what your are feeding using this sample. We can check it for you.

How many of them should be bone-in?

7-9 bone in meals ---look at pooh. Instead of 7 you may want to do 8 or 9 if pooh is too lose.

[bare01]

I'm sorry, my explanation was bad.

If he takes 4 or more proteins in a non-bone-in, can all meals (7-9 times) of bone-in be the same protein?

For example,
Mon
AM:duck(B)
PM:duck(B)or deer(M)

Tue
AM:duck(B)
PM:cow(M)

Wed
AM:duck(B)
PM:pig(H)

Thu
AM:duck(B)
PM:duck(B)or cow(M)

Fri
AM:duck(B)
PM:cow(H) chicken(L) lamb(O)

Sat
AM:duck(B)
PM:lamb(M)

Sun
AM:duck(B)
PM:chicken(L) pig(O)

[abbeytheferret6]

If he takes 4 or more proteins in a non-bone-in, can all meals (7-9 times) of bone-in be the same protein?

Hmmm.....
Let's see if Heather will answer that or Sherry.
I know the black footed ferret in Western USA relied mainly on prairie dogs for food.

(One meal of mice would take care of 1 bone meal. According to alternative chart---the second mice meal would count as a muscle meal though)

[raynebc]

The impression I've gotten on this website is that muscle meat (this includes heart) variety is what's most important. As long as the right amount of bone, heart and organ are given, the variety with these isn't required.

[bare01]

Aug 24, 2019 12:31:56 GMT -5 abbeytheferret6 said:

If he takes 4 or more proteins in a non-bone-in, can all meals (7-9 times) of bone-in be the same protein?

Hmmm.....
Let's see if Heather will answer that or Sherry.
I know the black footed ferret in Western USA relied mainly on prairie dogs for food.

(One meal of mice would take care of 1 bone meal. According to alternative chart---the second mice meal would count as a muscle meal though)

Thank you for the reply.

Wow! I didn't know that Ferret would eat Prairie Dock.

It doesn't sell in my area.



He is now practicing about rats.

I'm struggling because he doesn't eat it, but I won't give up.

[bare01]

Aug 26, 2019 11:23:34 GMT -5 raynebc said:

The impression I've gotten on this website is that muscle meat (this includes heart) variety is what's most important. As long as the right amount of bone, heart and organ are given, the variety with these isn't required.

Yes, I have the same idea as you.

But I'm worried because I'm not sure that it's right.

It will be a little expensive, but I will try to increase the types of meat with bones for him.

Thank you.

[abbeytheferret6]

So Raynbec you are saying it is ok to give same bone? 
The muscle meat is where the variety should be?

Wanted to clarify this for bare01 as I think he/she may be interpreting what was said differently.
This is what bare01 posted

Yes, I have the same idea as you.



But I'm worried because I'm not sure that it's right.



It will be a little expensive, but I will try to increase the types of meat with bones for him.

Read more: holisticferret60.proboards.com/thread/25354/protein-bone?page=1#ixzz5yMrUvafM

[raynebc]

The question was whether if only one protein of bone in meat was immediately available, whether a wider protein variety in the muscle meat meals could meet the dietary variety needs. Ie. if you only had access to chicken wings for bone-in, could you use beef, pork, etc. muscle meat meals to fill the quota in number of different meats. I believe that to be the case.

[Heather]

I strongly suggest that your bone in meats (consider this 7 to 9 meals) should be a couple of different types of proteins. No, you cannot use just chicken or a single protein as it makes that too much of the same protein....there are a number of choices available. I use rabbit, chicken, quail, duck and turkey.
ciao

[abbeytheferret6]

No, you cannot use just chicken or a single protein as it makes that too much of the same protein....there are a number of choices available. I use rabbit, chicken, quail, duck and turkey.
ciao

Read more: holisticferret60.proboards.com/thread/25354/protein-bone#ixzz5yXxd79Eg


Thanks for that clarification Heather

If you are serving frog, bare01 that will count.
The rib cage of the birds can be served---even with rabbit. You can cut a group 3 or 4  long rib bones and add some meat as they(ribs) hardly have meat on them. This is what I do.