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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 9:13:46 GMT -5
urgh he'll eat it now. daft fuzz butt
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Post by Celene on Jul 1, 2016 12:57:45 GMT -5
Hehe, that's good though!
When you get a chance, can you post your menu for the week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 16:41:48 GMT -5
wednesday: chicken wings (am) beef (pm) thursday: chicken wings (am) lamb + chicken mix friday: chicken wings (am) lamb heart saturday: chicken wings, chicken meat sunday: chicken wings, pork liver and lamb kidneys monday chicken wings, turkey meat tuesday liver, heart and kidneys
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Post by Celene on Jul 5, 2016 20:22:05 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the menu!
One thing I would say is that your menu is why to high in chicken. If possible, I would say to add back in the rabbit and pigeon and then your menu would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 10:45:41 GMT -5
I will once I move. at the moment I'm going from one flat to the other and I'm having to pay two rents this month, leaving me quite low on funds. Once I've got that sorted and out of the way, I can get back to a more varied diet for him. Usually cost isn't an issue, just this month with end of tenancy bills and such.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 10:54:39 GMT -5
would whole rats and/or mice work as well as chicks?
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Post by Celene on Jul 20, 2016 15:51:36 GMT -5
Sorry! I just came to check in with you and realized I had not responded to that earlier post (I could have sworn I had). Rat and mice (whole prey) are a great way to supplement other meals. I actually made a chart on balancing the frankenprey menu with whole prey and other "balanced" meals here. How is everything else going?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 16:21:58 GMT -5
he's a bit picky. He'll lap up heart and liver but turns his nose up at chicken and at kidney. He'll eat beef but won't even deign to look at lamb. He gives you this look like "you expect me to eat this no thanks, I'll just bury this in the litterbox" However, he doesn't get his heart unless he eats his kidneys and liver
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Post by Celene on Jul 25, 2016 9:56:24 GMT -5
Hehe! Ferrets can be super fussy. Mine have learned that they don't get new/fresh food until they eat their old, so they've given up trying to be picky. I'm glad they don't stash in their litter though!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 16:01:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry Celene but it looks like I'll have to start over. Monty became ill and has had to go back on kibble for a bit in order to make sure he gets the nutrients he needs. Poor little thing hasn't been very happy about moving house and the stress has caused a very upset tummy.
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Post by Celene on Aug 2, 2016 11:24:30 GMT -5
Oh no! If he isn't feeling well, I would highly suggest you contact your vet and get some Carnivore Care to feed him, as it is nutrient dense.
When ferrets are ill, raw is generally preferred to kibble as it has no filler, and a higher level of nutrients. Even if you keep feeding kibble, supplementing with raw soupies will definitely help.
Are you planning on dropping the switch for now, or would you like to start reintroducing raw immediately?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 10:36:22 GMT -5
I'm going to go back to it. It was just until he settled. Now he is, albeit a little grumpy, I think I can go back to it. my newest Pippin will eat anything and everything you put in front of him so getting him to eat raw won't be a problem! I gave them both a pink the other day and they lasted all of three seconds so I wonder how you would go about introducing rats and mice to their diet. Also, how many rats/mice does a full meal consist of?
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Post by Celene on Aug 9, 2016 18:33:19 GMT -5
Oh, you got another ferret? Could you please fill out the following for him:
Age: Weight: Health Issues: Current Diet:
Are they both of a fully frankenprey diet then? Please post your current menu when you get a chance. I don't feed whole prey myself, so I will have a fellow mentor answer your questions about introducing whole prey. In general, I believe a meal should consist of about as much by weight as any other meal.
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Post by Celene on Aug 9, 2016 18:39:46 GMT -5
So after asking around, a couple tips on introducing whole prey:
The best way to start introducing whole prey is to (if the ferrets aren't super stubborn) is to split the belly open and drizzle some salmon oil or even chicken soup on. If they don't take to this, you can always chop up the prey into smaller bits, and/or drizzle with soupies or a pureed meat they enjoy.
To split the rat/mouse you can poke a hole with a knife, then use scissors to cut the belly open. (Scissors work best on the skin.)
Alternatively, you can by chopping up the rat/mouse into tiny bits and mixing in with a food they like (easier to chop when frozen), and slowly work up to the whole animal.
For larger prey like huge rats or guinea pigs you might want to remove the intestines first (but leave all the other nutritious organs of course).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 3:28:14 GMT -5
Sorry. I will be restarting the frankenprey diet this week (work's been h*ll and I've had trouble getting things as I haven't been abble to get through to town.
So Pippin is male 1 year old and 900g no known health issues
This week's menu: Thursday am: chicken wings pm: heart friday am: pigeon friday pm: beef
saturday am: chicken wings pm: liver, kidney, heart
sunday am: chicken wings pm: turkey
monday am: rabbbit pm: liver + kidneys
tuesday am: chicken wings pm: lamb+chicken mince
wednesday am: chicken wings pm: beef
Now, I've found a supplier for raw diet but I'm waiting to get a bigger freezer so I can buy in bulk.
Sorry I haven't been consistant, things are very chaotic right now.
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