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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 1:33:29 GMT -5
Can anyone confirm legitness? Ive been emailing back and forth for almost a month but replies take a long time and i kinda go though a run around, they havent even shown me pictures yet and the ones they are saying are available it wont let me choose on the checkout, i really hope its legit because they ship or she will be driving out here next month, i really dont like the idea of shipping but i live far from most breeders and its near impossible to get time off work now(Inventory runs into the Holidays)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 2:42:20 GMT -5
I'd be wary of any website where you can order a ferret like you're ordering a sweater on Amazon. A reputable breeder would ask questions, would want to 'investigate' you as much as you should be investigating them. Just like websites where you can 'order' puppies/dogs with no questions asked, this one screams mill to me. The website specifically says you're dealing with a broker. Pass this 'breeder' up. Your best bet is to go to a show and meet reputable breeders. That's your best bet of obtaining a mentally and physically healthy animal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 2:50:55 GMT -5
The website even states that they don't show and they don't breed to a standard. Run for the hills. This is not a reputable breeder. itsdogornothing.com/10-signs-of-a-backyard-breeder/Here's a link on what constitutes as a responsible breeder. It's about dogs but it works for ferrets too.
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Post by abbeytheferret6 on Aug 22, 2016 6:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 7:17:13 GMT -5
I'd be wary of any website where you can order a ferret like you're ordering a sweater on Amazon. A reputable breeder would ask questions, would want to 'investigate' you as much as you should be investigating them. Just like websites where you can 'order' puppies/dogs with no questions asked, this one screams mill to me. The website specifically says you're dealing with a broker. Pass this 'breeder' up. Your best bet is to go to a show and meet reputable breeders. That's your best bet of obtaining a mentally and physically healthy animal. It is hard to find breeders near me, also I heard they dont bring ferrets to the shows the one by me is in October, ive even asked a few breeders and they said no?
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Post by Sherry on Aug 22, 2016 9:50:14 GMT -5
I'd not be getting any from there either TBH. To many bad things I've heard about that one to trust her. She breeds all kinds of animals and is apparently no better than any other mill.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:00:49 GMT -5
Sometimes it takes a while to get a ferret from a reputable breeder. Often times they have waiting lists for their kits. But it's worth the wait. You'll be getting a healthy animal and you won't be supporting animal cruelty. You can get a kit from an unreliable source sooner, but I guarantee you that they will be a behavioral and medical nightmare.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:06:17 GMT -5
Breeders usually don't bring kits to sell at shows. It's not like going out and purchasing a car or stereo system or a pair of jeans. Breeders are thorough on who their kits go to (as it should be). The Chicago ferret rescue is out there if you're set on bringing a ferret home. It may not be an angora, but you'll be adopting a ferret in need of a home. I've wanted a Dalmatian for many years, but that never happened. I rescued pets that happened to come my way. You may not always get the pet you 'want', but you always get the pet you need.
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Post by FerretsnFalcons on Aug 22, 2016 12:00:02 GMT -5
Everyone has already confirmed that this is not a reputable breeder, but for future reference if you decide to look into other breeders, here are some specific red flags from the Carolina Ferrets Facebook page: " 50 kits are currently available in albino, sable, chocolate and silver." This is an awful lot of kits, most reputable breeders only have 1-3 litters per YEAR. In fact, if you scroll through the whole page you will see post after post after post of different litters and ferrets for sale each month, each week even. I think it would be very hard to give all these ferrets the optimal amount of playtime, socialization, and care that they need. " At this time, I am filling orders that have come in already, first, and new orders will be on a first come basis." It does not sound like this breeder has any sort of adoption application, just orders that are filled. Basically, it is first come first serve. Like others have said, reputable breeders are selective. They will have an extensive adoption application to determine if you are a responsible ferret owner and the right match for their kits. " This 3 year old male albino has beautiful long hair. Extra nose folds are visible in the first photo." This breeder breeds FOR the unique but unhealthy deformities in the angora. Reputable breeders who breed angoras (or any ferret) will be working against deformities and towards a healthier ferret. " Other ferrets available Thanksgiving weekend, $50 off. Cream body, silver markings (unusual), mutt male with tummy spots, silver mitt male." Once again, this breeder shows that she does not breed to a standard, and only wants to breed what is "rare" and "pretty." This is how you get ferrets with Waardenburg's, decreased immunity, and other health problems or mutations. Reputable breeders will have a standard, and will carefully select which ferrets to breed so that they follow their standard and produce healthier ferrets. " Chocolate female angora kit for sale, 9 weeks, $450. She is spayed and descented and ready to ship or pickup." While it's good that this breeder doesn't sell breeding stock to others, there is no way she should be altering the kits at only 6,7,8 weeks old, and descenting them. This is what the ferret mills do, not a responsible breeder. I don't think there's any good breeder that would allow their kits to be descented for non-medical reasons, they recognize this as senseless mutilation. A reputable breeder will adopt out unaltered kits, but require that the adopter sign a contract that makes them legally obligated to alter the ferret at a certain age, with proof of spay/neuter then sent to the breeder. Some breeders will even work with you if you decide to go the implant/chemical castration route to try to prevent adrenal. " So here is what the airline did... They told the stork to fly the ferrets to the wrong new home." This breeder ships ferrets, which may be convenient for the adopter, but most times it isn't in the ferret's best interest. Things like this can happen, or even worse. Reputable breeders want to meet the adopter in person, and besides a responsible adopter should want to see how the breeder's ferrets are being housed and cared for. They will ship ferrets only if there is no other option (like when they are exporting to other countries) and put a lot of consideration into it. " 2015 kits will be delivered in the order received, at 6-7 weeks of age." 6-7 weeks is too early to be away from mom and siblings, even Marshall Farms won't admit that they ship kits before 8 weeks. Most responsible breeders will not adopt a kit out until 10-12 weeks. Anyway, those are just some examples that I found while scrolling through the Facebook page. If you see statements like these on a breeder's website or social media, they are most likely an irresponsible breeder. I hope this helps. And don't give up your search, reputable ferret breeders are scarce, but they are out there (although you may need to make quite a drive!) If you tell us where in Illinois you are and how far you are willing to drive, we might be able to help find breeders and rescues in your area. Good luck!
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Post by nancyl on Aug 22, 2016 17:06:06 GMT -5
Run far far away. She's one of the most unethical excuses for a breeder out there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 18:33:00 GMT -5
Thanks everyone I am talking to Middle Earth Ferretry, I am in love with their silver half angora.
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