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Post by crazylady on Mar 3, 2016 12:35:08 GMT -5
LOL poor uncle Joe if he is old as dirt I must be a dinosaur lol I use scruffing for checking and cleaning ears and when clipping nails ( we have too many to do the oil on tummy trick lol my son and I do a convey a belt when clipping nails one scruffs one clips lol) mine are used to it now just as they are used to the checking of mouths and grooming if I get one who is a bit snarky ( usually a poley lol) I simply hold and shout loudly they soon get used to the moms mad voice and the moms treating me like a baby voice I get a treat lol poor uncle joe pension book at the ready lol take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 13:45:09 GMT -5
Well so far the only scruffing I've done is to put a little food in there mouth and cuddle em afterwards. They seem to not mind....yet I want them to enjoy being scruffed. I'm not going to use it as discipline but something fun they can associate it to. And keep it calm
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Post by Sherry on Mar 4, 2016 11:29:52 GMT -5
I actually had one wee girl(the fear biter) who was also terrified of a scruff for any reason. First time I tried to scruff to check her over she literally screamed and wet herself It took quite a while to get her to accept it and understand no one was ever going to hurt her again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 15:56:34 GMT -5
I actually had one wee girl(the fear biter) who was also terrified of a scruff for any reason. First time I tried to scruff to check her over she literally screamed and wet herself It took quite a while to get her to accept it and understand no one was ever going to hurt her again. Oh my goodness Sherry that makes me so sad! I hope she got it over it quickly and isn't so scared anymore I only scruff my kids to cuddle and kiss on them, and also when it comes time for nails/ears/teeth etc. My hope is they associate love and care with scruffs. My biggest problem is my panda mix, Louise, because we are positive she is almost completely deaf. Therefore, when we scruff her and she involuntarily closes her eyes she loses her only other sense she relies on heavily. Any time we scruff her, she puts up the biggest fight. She paws and flips all around and scratches like crazy! My partner made the mistake once of scruffing her and getting too close to her little face and she got a claw UP his nose! (Very funny for me, not so much for poor Sean.) We are working with her slowly and she seems to be relaxing. Casper, our albino girl, would attack your feet if and only if you had socks on and walked by her. (My thought is she thinks our toes are just more toys). We tried scruffing her once for punishment and it obviously did nothing (She used to have the same reaction Louise does to being scruffed). Now I simply pick her up and say, "No Casper. Bad." She got it pretty quickly after that and loves to be scruffed and cuddled now.
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Post by Sherry on Mar 16, 2016 11:02:31 GMT -5
Most pandas are deaf, but her reaction to being scruffed likely comes from an unpleasant memory. Best thing to do is to start by gently stroking/plucking at her scruff while she is getting a treat. Do that a few times a day. Work up to a gentle "scruff" with all four legs firmly on your lap while getting a treat. Next give the treat directly after. As she becomes accepting of that move to using enough pressure with the scruff to begin to lift her and put her right back down, then front end slightly off your lap and right back down, etc. Give a treat every time immediately after the scruff. Keep sessions short.
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Post by druexotic on Feb 19, 2022 15:20:00 GMT -5
So much of this stuff is false lol Scruffing is the safest, fastest, and most effective way to train them. It's just a chill switch. Nature's time out. Group animals respect dominance they do not fear it. If u can't handle a bite ferrets are not for you. First time owners should not get rescues nor should rescues be used to explain ferret norms. They are a domestic only species so no matter where they came from aside from an abusive or neglectful home they are the same behavior wise tho like all animals will have their own personality. I have trained multiple ferrets within days simply by being consitant and speaking a language they understand. They have to be taught how to gage bites for human play and where isn't ok to bite like face. Scruffing is completely painless therefore causes zero fear and does nothing to break a bond. I'm the disciplinary figure in my home and they flock to me. Cuddles, kisses, follow me around like lil disciples lol despite me doing all the training and handling during baths and all the other non fun parts of pet husbandry. Hitting and nose flicking is abuse and will cause fear or break a bond. I do not condone it. I feel like scruffing is common sense as I've been around animals my whole life but if u think you need to there is information on how to properly do it. While they are our babies they aren't human children and they do not understand the same concepts. The best and most rewarding experience will come from you being in control. Dominance does not mean lack of kindness or compassion like most things sucess comes from a balance. Nothing mean about setting boundaries
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Post by alvar on Feb 20, 2022 0:07:51 GMT -5
Actually, the whole dominance thought is old school. No, scruffing is a form of communication, that I want to fight you. It is not how to build trust. You'll get better results by building trust than by frightening them, making them think you're going to hurt them. Scruffing can also backfire you to the point that you now have a fear biter & only make the bites worst. No they are not all alike behavior wise. Each ferret has it's own personality, tolerance of horrible human interaction, ability to give trust again. Scruffing should only be used for medical, exams or grooming.
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