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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 12:27:08 GMT -5
Great quiz dorena261-NataliaFF0 try to take this without looking up the answers. That will reinforce what you are unsure of. You know this, you'll do fine. (dance)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 22:50:30 GMT -5
Ugh, I thought I was doing good...then I see these questions and now I'm not so sure! Lol, here goes.
1. is it better to use lean or fatty meat in ferret's diet? and why Fatty... Because fat is energy for ferrets
2. what is the good source of Taurine? Heart. Tongue is a substitute..
3. does freezing or heating degrade Taurine? Freezing does not but heating does.
4. If you supplement with Taurine powder, what is the recommended dosage per ferret? 500mg per day
5. for what reason is liver only 5% of the total diet per week? Too much liver can cause vitamin a toxicitity
6. What protein is high in Iron and Vitamin B? Not sure..
7. is there a chance that ferret get E. Coli from raw meat? Not likely due to their fast digestion.
8. about how long is a ferret's digestion time? 3 to 4 hours?
9. is it a good idea to cook meat for ferret? and why No,cooking meat gets rid of nutrients needed in meat.
10. How much can a ferret's appetite and weight change seasonally? Greatly. Eat more during winter and less during spring. Can lose up to 40% body weight in the spring.
So I did my best. I did not look back, I did however read over my notes this morning before seeing quiz questions. I hope I did will. I did not remember the answer to #6, so I obviously need to go over that again...now I'll be heading back to read over everything to try to find the answers.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Mar 4, 2016 4:34:28 GMT -5
Ugh, I thought I was doing good...then I see these questions and now I'm not so sure! Lol, here goes. 1. is it better to use lean or fatty meat in ferret's diet? and why Fatty... Because fat is energy for ferrets correct! all kind of meats are good forr ferrets, but if you have a chance it's always better to pick fattier meat. ferrets get their energy from fats similar to how humans rely on carbs. so instead of getting turkey breast, opt for the thigh instead! fattier cuts are usually cheaper too, so it's a win-win!
2. what is the good source of Taurine? Heart. Tongue is a substitute.. correct! beef tongue is a great substitute for a heart. brain has a lot of taurine too, but feeding with only brain you should supplement with the Taurine powder. rabbits are relatively low in taurine. this is because taurine is created when muscles work very hard, and rabbits are kept in small pens and don't run around a lot (wild rabbits are different). This is also why hard working muscles like heart and tongue are so high in taurine.
3. does freezing or heating degrade Taurine? Freezing does not but heating does. correct again! bravo! Taurine is organic acid which is found in all animal tissues, it's not degraded by the freeze-thaw process when it comes to raw meats, however it is degraded when it is cooked or exposed to heat. also, for the longer exposure to the air is a bit degraded, but not much.
4. If you supplement with Taurine powder, what is the recommended dosage per ferret? 500mg per day correct, 500mg per day per ferret5. for what reason is liver only 5% of the total diet per week? Too much liver can cause vitamin a toxicitity correct! liver is very high in Vitamin A. although Vitamin A is also really important, it is not water soluble which means any excess will get stored up in a ferret's system and can lead to toxicity over time. this is why the 10% liver (or preferable 5% liver 5% other organ) is an exact requirement.
6. What protein is high in Iron and Vitamin B? Not sure.. any "red meat" is very high in iron and Vit B. we generally recommend at least one "red meat" per week. red meats such as duck, beef, lamb, etc. are very high in iron (which is what gives it the red colour) and other vitamins/minerals. this is a way to ensure a vider variety (as opposed to someone feeding chicken, turkey and quail as their three proteins, which are relatively similar).
7. is there a chance that ferret get E. Coli from raw meat? Not likely due to their fast digestion. correct! although, there is a chance that ill, immunosuppressed ferret, can catch it. BUT, it's possible to catch it from the kibble too. for others, bacterial overloads can happen at any time, whether kibble, cooked, or raw fed. odds are increased when kibble and raw are fed together, but the raw itself has nothing to do with it
8. about how long is a ferret's digestion time? 3 to 4 hours? correct!9. is it a good idea to cook meat for ferret? and why No,cooking meat gets rid of nutrients needed in meat. correct! the protein molecules change shape as a result of the heat energy they absorb when they are cooked. all the supplements, vitamins, and minerals are removed with cooking. cooked meal cannot be a diet. it is not nutritionally fit for a long term diet, in fact it can be dangerous.the main issue is the loss of vitamins and the lack of bone in meats since you would have to remove them since its dangerous to feed cooked bones. cooked meat is alright, but only for end stage ferrets, who've stopped digesting food.
10. How much can a ferret's appetite and weight change seasonally? Greatly. Eat more during winter and less during spring. Can lose up to 40% body weight in the spring. CORRECT! YOU DID GREAT!!!! :boing: So I did my best. I did not look back, I did however read over my notes this morning before seeing quiz questions. I hope I did will. I did not remember the answer to #6, so I obviously need to go over that again...now I'll be heading back to read over everything to try to find the answers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 7:54:28 GMT -5
You did excellent on your quiz. Congratulations. You do know more than you think you know. Lovely job and a very nice A for your first test. (dance)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 11:03:49 GMT -5
Yay for passing my first quiz! Lol. Not much to report on everyone's progress. Maverick, Paisley, and Bandit continue to eat soups and a few slivers when I feed them by hand. Durango eats soup but still seems to prefer slivers. Hoss will begin eating off a spoon and will eat a little from plate after I lower it down, after a handful of licks though it's like he realizes what's going on and stops. Cowboy, still very stubborn. I add exactly 4 drops of oil to the soup and he will eat it. I tried adding 3 drops last night and he wouldn't touch it. He'll also only eat about an ounce or so with the oil. I'm continuing to work with them. I will say that I am spending most of my energy on Cowboy and Hoss at this point. Granger will be here on Friday, and I will begin to work with him. I think he will be very easy though...we also added another baby to the family, she's going to be our last! No more lol. Meet Cheyenne I have my suspicions that she may be deaf. She doesn't respond to noises like everyone else. Acts very much like my Durango who is without a doubt deaf. She also has the white dot on tail that seems to be associated with deafness..we've not had her 24 hours though, so I guess time will tell. She'll be our third deafy though. We love them all the same!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 14:15:58 GMT -5
Oh look at Cheyenne. She is just adorable. I can't wait to hear all about her and see how she and Granger get along. Those two babies should have a blast together. Does Granger have an i in his name? I think I've seen it both ways in posts and want to be correct. Cowboy is giving you a run for your money but he'll come around. The oil is going to make for loose poops so you'll want to wean him off of that oil. He's a smart boy and apparently can count, lol. Maverick, Paisley and Bandit are right on track. Increase the size of their slivers and slowly decrease the amount of soup. Hoss sounds like he wants the attention and he wants his Mommy. For now I'd spoil him a bit. Durango is ready to move from soupie to slivers so as I've mentioned just give him larger slivers and some chunks and use the soupie as a gravy. Don't put too much soupie on his plate. Ferret Math has certainly hit you hard. This is so much fun and we're going to have to change your name to ferreteight0.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 15:08:30 GMT -5
Yes ferret math hit us hard! But, we're full at this point!
I haven't noticed Cowboys stools being any looser than normal. I didn't put huge drops or a large amount in, was very small drops with an eye dropper. Lol, I don't think he can count, I guess the 4 drops covered more of the surface than 3 did...I will continue to work with him without the oil.
Grangers name is without an i. Though I think with the i people would pronounce it correctly lol. My boyfriend didn't like it spelled with an i though, so without it is lol.
Hoss is most definitely a mommas boy and is eating up all the attention. He's making progress though, so I'm happy. Durango is always offered slivers with some soup, sometimes he will go to someone else's leftover bowl though and clean it out, he's finicky in which one he'll favor on which day.
I will continue to work with everyone, we'll get there!
I have a 10 day vacation at the end of the month, I'm not going anywhere and will be home the whole time. I am determined to have all these guys eating raw by the time I go back to work!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 8:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Mar 7, 2016 16:46:32 GMT -5
Cheyenne is absolutely gorgeous!!! i think you're great ferret mom and your new additions will be pair of very happy ferrets in their new home great progress with boys! if everything's ok with Cowboys stools put 4 drops of oil in his soup and, as soon as he accept it, reduce the amount of drops in it. maybe the oil is the key. we don't really want to overdo it so just keep an eye on his stools. Hoss is obviously momma's boy so just give him some extra attention. it will be much easier when you'll be home with them all the time. have fun with babies! they are both beautiful
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 14:10:59 GMT -5
How's everyone doing? How is little Cheyenne settling in and when does Granger come home? :wave3:
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Mar 8, 2016 17:17:19 GMT -5
Granger is home on friday, i think. i wonder is Cheyenne with him already? i have to say one more time, they are both soooo cute!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 0:21:35 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Sorry For my late response. My human kids been sick. Also, Mavericks still having his breathing problems. Took him today to have blood drawn for blood tests. While at the vet we learned our vet is leaving and her last days or Friday, very short notice and super quick. To top all that off Bandit was making some noises very similar to what's going on with maverick a little bit ago. We really have no back up exotics vet in the area, the next closest is an hour or more away. Our office is looking for a replacement...but the likely candidate is still a student and hasn't even graduated yet....to say we're stressed is an understatement.
I was not able to work with anyone last night and tonight due to my human child being sick. Overall though everyone is still the same. I decreased to amount of oil I added to Cowboys soup to only 2 drops and lightly mixed around on top and he ate about an ounce. Everyone else is the same progress wise.
I will post again tomorrow. Everything should be calming down here a bit. With the exception of finding a new vet...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 0:24:16 GMT -5
Sorry. Granger will be here Friday as well Cheyenne.
Cheyenne is already with Granger, I know! I should have quarintined the two of them from each other... I'm bad! They were both seen by the vet and got clean bill of health. Poor Granger was so lonely by himself...since being introduced to Cheyenne he no longer cries through the night and is much happier!
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Mar 10, 2016 2:53:27 GMT -5
i am so sorry, so many illnesses picked you recently... it's hard, i know, but it will pass those are not really good news about your vet! but, if the new one is willing to learn about ferrets, maybe we can collect some ferret books for him/her to learn and send you? i have some in PDF, you can send me your e-mail via PM... I think the most important thing is that your new vet wants to learn from other veterinarians who works with ferrets and contact them if needed. i know very well what's like to drive more than 2 hrs to your first ferret knowledgeable vet if anything happens, that is not easy with your busy life, job and other obligations. Cheyenne is already with Granger, I know! I should have quarintined the two of them from each other... I'm bad! They were both seen by the vet and got clean bill of health. Poor Granger was so lonely by himself...since being introduced to Cheyenne he no longer cries through the night and is much happier! awww, it was love at first sight?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 7:13:12 GMT -5
I'm so sorry you're going through a rough patch. I hope that everyone gets better soon. Please let us know what the vet says. Cheyenne and Granger need each other. Those babies will be so much happier together. Little baby meeps just tug at your heart. We're trying to get a few things finished up while the lovely weather is here and before the rains pick up. I'll check back in a little later this afternoon.
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