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Post by Heather on Oct 22, 2015 13:06:54 GMT -5
"If" I find the need to vaccinate (having to meet import vaccination schedules), distemper is given after 6 months and rabies is given just before shipping at a year (the rabies vaccine for import purposes must be given within the year of shipping). The timeline that is normally given by vets is to try and attempt to cover the drop off of the maternal antibodies in a kits' blood. They know that it's very dependent from one animal to the next and can occur from 6 weeks to 16 weeks, hence the use of the schedule selected. The problem I have with this schedule...the amount of toxins your pumping into an animal with an already sketchy immune system. There is no such thing as a booster, just another injection of toxins. If the virus has already been recognised you cannot "boost" the system to recognise it faster but you can damage it so it doesn't recognise it at all. ciao
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Post by raynebc on Oct 22, 2015 13:43:05 GMT -5
Is a live virus vaccine significantly more dangerous?
Some friends are planning to move in with us soon and they have a dog so I'm thinking I ought to get my newer ferrets their CDV ahead of time.
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Post by Heather on Oct 22, 2015 15:56:53 GMT -5
Yes...a live virus is very dangerous and I believe not advised in the use of ferrets, skunks. I know that the virus is diluted but I would not be using a live virus, especially one as virulent as Distemper on a ferret. Their immunity response is not the best and unlike a dog that has a 60% chance of surviving I believe a ferret is 100% fatal if not vaccinated and 80% survival if vaccinated with the fatality going even higher because though the ferret survived the encounter with the virus they did not survive the neurological damage caused by the virus. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 16:11:42 GMT -5
I do not do canine nor rabies, as I can control my ferrets getting rabies---must be in direct contact with animal. However if you r worried about the law of your state, then do as you feel(rabies). My vet warns me all the time about my ferrets needing rabies. She does not push distemper.
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Post by raynebc on Oct 22, 2015 17:24:34 GMT -5
I don't take my ferrets outside, but I'm pretty sure my friends would walk their dog, and I can't control where it goes or what animals it comes into contact with.
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Post by Bonbon on Oct 22, 2015 18:19:48 GMT -5
Hmmm, so then maybe it would be better to wait another month seeing as he just turned 4 months yesterday?
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Post by Sherry on Oct 23, 2015 10:21:29 GMT -5
Why distemper vaccines for dogs are dangerous for ferrets Most distemper vaccines made for dogs are grown on mammalian cells, are not safe in ferrets, and should be avoided. Many ferrets have died of distemper after vaccination with dog vaccines. www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=11+2060&aid=535Modified live vaccines contain live distemper virus, modified so that is safe for the animal for which it is intended. The vaccine induces immunity by causing an infection but not an illness. The virus is modified (attenuated) by being passed from one set of tissue culture cells to another for several passages. The more times it is passaged, the less able the virus is to cause disease in the susceptible animal - it has learned how to grow in tissue culture, and has 'forgotten' how to grow in the live animal. If it is passaged too often, it may not even infect the animal, and produces no protective immunity. If it is not attenuated enough, it will cause distemper in the most susceptible animals. Previously vaccinated animals will probably be safe, because they have some immunity and can rapidly respond to the infection and eliminate the vaccinal virus.
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Post by Sherry on Oct 23, 2015 10:22:28 GMT -5
If you can, I would wait until 5-6 months to vaccinate.
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Post by Bonbon on Oct 23, 2015 22:44:35 GMT -5
Thank you for all of the information sheery, it really does help and I think I will be waiting until 5-6 months to vaccinate him. I was very hesitate with the puppy vaccine, rather than the ferret vaccine.
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Post by Sherry on Oct 24, 2015 2:03:20 GMT -5
I do truly wish the ferret vaccine were widely available again. It is supposedly out in certain areas(no idea why one and not another), but if not the puppy is the best you can do. IMO, I would do the one, as you said, at 5-6 months. Puppy, OR ferret. Even if with exposure odds of survival are only 20%. I will take that over 0%
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 8:04:50 GMT -5
Sherry, isn't it on the forum posts somewhere that a group of ferrets that had the most vitamin A survived distemper while those who had vaccines did not? Could have my wires crossed. Not suggesting overloading ferrets with vitamin A. Edited Did find that vitamin A helped significantly the canine distemper induced ferrets---but made no mention if control or other group had vaccines prior. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17634264
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Post by ferretbrah on Oct 25, 2015 10:31:40 GMT -5
I don't get why I believe the 3rd most popular pet in the us still does not have more research done for vaccines, diseases, and companies that provide the vaccines.
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Post by Sherry on Oct 25, 2015 11:24:27 GMT -5
abbeytheferret6, those who were exposed received the high doses of vit A, which is what gave them a higher survival rate(if I remember correctly). vetbook.org/wiki/ferret/index.php/Distemper'Treatment is usually palliative, with broad-spectrum antimicrobials. Vitamin A supplementation has show promise at minimizing clinical signs and improving recovery rates in this species[11].'
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