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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 6:58:26 GMT -5
@norman300
Here is your own thread to ask questions about raw feeding. I've moved all your previous posts and the replies to this thread.
i'm researching into ferrets as i want some and i would like them on a raw diet and i was just wondering what raw food is not safe for ferrets?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 7:30:36 GMT -5
I believe wild boar due to Trichinosis. Any other kind of meat is fine as long as any enhanced meat, processed meat, spiced or smoked meats are avoided (e.g. bacon)
Wild caught game & rodents is best frozen for at least 2 weeks in a freezer that is well below -10°C to kill any parasites so they can't be passed to to fuzzles.
Other than that they can eat virtually any kind of meat you can feed them. Often you will find human grade meat or those produce from high welfare farms are better quality though and are probably the healthiest for your fuzzles. Really depends what meat you can get hold of and what you can get your fuzzles to eat.
Mine will eat any type of poultry & game bird plus rabbit, any type of rodent (mice, rats, cavies etc.), and pork, lamb, beef any organs of any of these too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 7:46:22 GMT -5
so is something like chicken feet ok? the only place i can get my raw meat stuff is from a halal butchers is that ok?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 7:49:50 GMT -5
also can they have chicken stomachs?
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Post by bitbyter on Oct 4, 2015 8:11:23 GMT -5
See the following two articles. They should answer your questions but basically they can eat any meat that doesn't have stuff added to it (salt, preservatives, dyes, smoking, etc). It is the balance that is important. To much liver can be dangerous, as can not enough. Not enough bone in meats can lead to calcium deficiency, etc. Please read through the these articles: Frankenprey DietCan I Feed Wild Game |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 9:09:44 GMT -5
so is something like chicken feet ok? the only place i can get my raw meat stuff is from a halal butchers is that ok? Chicken feet will be more of a treat. Mine will stash them but really don't make an effort to try to eat them. Any baby animals like chicks or pinkies will be a treat. Pigs feet make a treat but check to make sure they are not smoked or cured. Gizzards comprise most of the chicken stomach. It's the muscular part of the stomach that combined with grit grinds foods into digestible parts. That's why they don't need teeth. Gizzards are wonderful for ferrets. They build jaw strength and can help clean teeth. A regular grocery store will carry most of what you need for your menu. You can look for the more exotic items like Heart and Tongue and other organs at a good Asian Market. Your Halal market butcher should be helpful except for pork products, I would think. Google 'Find Asian Market near (your location) and see what comes up. |
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Post by Klarissa on Oct 4, 2015 9:18:31 GMT -5
I feed regularly - chicken, beef, pork, and mouse
I rotate weekly - duck, rabbit, quail, bison, buffalo, boar (not wild), fish, kangaroo, and turkey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 10:00:46 GMT -5
with the frankenprey when it says edible bone in meat it says as one of them it can be chicken:any/all what does this mean does it mean like a neck or like a chicken wing?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 10:12:54 GMT -5
with the frankenprey when it says edible bone in meat it says as one of them it can be chicken:any/all what does this mean does it mean like a neck or like a chicken wing? Edible bone in meats for ferrets could be chicken, duck, turkey wings, cornish game hens, quail, rabbit or pork button bones. Necks are hard for some and others grew up eating them. They do count as a bone in meat but expect to smash them up some to make it easier. A ferret who is new to bones will need some help building jaw strength to learn to eat bones. Keep to the smaller animals, they can't handle a cow leg for example. One thing to remember is that you don't want your menu to be too chicken heavy. Chicken is a common allergy/intolerance and it's best to have as many proteins as possible. Different animals offer different nutrients. Beef or any red meat for example, is high in Iron and Vitamin B. You will want one red meat meal a week and that will be considered a muscle meat meal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 11:36:15 GMT -5
so say if i did this in a week
Monday am:Chicken wing
Monday pm:Quail
Tuesday am:Duck necks
Tuesday pm:Minced Beef
Wednesday am:Chicken necks
Wednesday pm:Chicken hearts
Thursday am:Day old chick
Thursday pm:Chicken wing
Friday am:Chicken leg
Friday pm:½ chicken heart + ¼ lamb liver + ¼ lamb kidney
Saturday am:Chicken wing
Saturday pm:Diced pork
Sunday am:½ Turkey drumstick
Sunday am:½ lamb liver + ½ lamb kidney
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 12:33:22 GMT -5
so say if i did this in a week Monday am:Chicken wing Monday pm:Quail This is good. Here you have two proteins and 2 Bone In meats
Tuesday am:Duck necks Tuesday pm:Minced Beef One Bone In meal and One Muscle meat meal
Duck necks are fine but you will want to chop those necks up for them.
Beef is a muscle meat and a great choice for Iron and Vitamin B
Wednesday am:Chicken necks Wednesday pm:Chicken hearts Here you have one Bone In meal and One Muscle meat meal.
It would be great if you could find another animal source for hearts, like pork heart or duck hearts and keep your menu from being too chicken heavy.
Thursday am:Day old chick Thursday pm:Chicken wing A day old chick is a treat. Baby animals are not nutritionally adequate. You want an adult animal.
Chicken wings are a Bone In meal. I'm putting them in colored font to count your meals.
Friday am:Chicken leg Friday pm:½ chicken heart + ¼ lamb liver + ¼ lamb kidney One Bone In meal of Chicken
The leg will be difficult especially the top part which is strong. We use to say only the Non Weight bearing bones of an animal the size of a chicken or smaller. However, we have quite a few who grow up eating bones and can handle the larger tougher bones. It will depend on your ferret as to whether he/she can handle tougher bones well enough for a meal.
One Organ meal with your Heart (muscle meat) meal.
Lamb is a red meat and that's great.
Saturday am:Chicken wing Saturday pm:Diced pork Chicken Wing is a Bone In meal
Pork will be a Muscle meat meal.
Sunday am:½ Turkey drumstick Sunday am:½ lamb liver + ½ lamb kidney Turkey drumstick may also be difficult to handle at first. They are quite big.
Were you planning on counting this as a Bone In meal?
Lamb Liver and Lamb Kidney will be an Organ mealYou've got a great understanding so far. Nice job for your first menu. Alot will depend on whether you bring home babies or older ferrets. Once we know what who you have chosen, we can tweak the menu further. I counted 8 Bone In meats. If you have babies or "tummies with teeth" you want to be on the higher side of Bone In meats. They need the Calcium from bones. Also consider looking for some smaller bones like Quail, Cornish game hen, pork button bones, rabbit. Chicken is a common allergy/intolerance and you don't want to rely too heavily on it. I counted 3 Muscle meat meals, 4 if you include the turkey leg as a muscle meat. You also included a Heart meal. Very Good! Your 2 Organ meals are correct, including the one which also has the half portion of Heart. Heart will be ten percent of what they eat in one week. Liver plus another Organ will be five percent for Liver and Five percent Other organ. You have 7 proteins and that is a nice variety. My biggest suggestion will be to look for smaller bones that are easier to handle and to replace a few chicken meals with other animal sources. Very nice first menu. You're doing well at researching and that makes me very happy. A new Ferrent is in for quite a ride and the more you know about them, the happier and healthier they will be. :wave3: |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 14:08:25 GMT -5
so on thursday am change it to quail
and on sunday am instead of the turkey drumstick could i have a half plucked pheasant?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 14:39:41 GMT -5
I cut drumettes off wings---maybe others do not.
If you serve gizzards cut in thin slices---I use scissors.
If you serve quail they can have it for that whole day, like if they have not polished it off in morning. Kind of makes it easier for you. Just as long as you have 3 or more different meats for the week.
Asian store usually has gutted quail ,so that is considered a bone in meal(it is such a boney little bird).
So for the day u have two bone in meals, you can just serve quail.
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Post by Desiree on Oct 5, 2015 1:09:08 GMT -5
so on thursday am change it to quail and on sunday am instead of the turkey drumstick could i have a half plucked pheasant? Pheasant is a wonderful alternate for turkey! I don't cut my gizzards in slices. I serve them as is for chicken gizzards and cut in half for anything larger. Depending on how many ferrets you have my crew of four can devour a whole quail in twelve hours. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 5:10:57 GMT -5
Reason I do not use knuckles, my senior was rotating one in her mouth. They r slippery. I did not think it would clear her esophagus---thus no more knuckles like on drumette
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