|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 13:18:17 GMT -5
scarlettHere is your unofficial switching thread for Gomez. It will show up under New Topics and under the Natural Diet Board/diet transitions. We can keep track of all of his progress. I've also moved the other posts from the Tech Support page to this page. :wave3: I read through your application. Gomez has been through alot and I'm so happy that he found his Forever home with you. Until your Mentor is assigned, you can go to Diet Transitions and begin an unofficial switching thread. The Mentors will offer advice and support until you are assigned your own and then you will be well on your way. Gomez is not a baby so he will have imprinted on his kibble. He may not recognize this new food as food. You will be the key to success for him in switching. Patience and persistence will play a big part in his transition. If you need help in building a thread, let me know and I will build it for you. You will want to start Gomez off with the soupie recipe and work on getting him to eat that first and then begin adding slivers to his soupie. An older ferret and he is still young but not a baby, will do best beginning with the soupie. It's balanced and will give him his required nutrients while you go through a switching process. Here is the Soupie Recipe: 8oz raw chicken thigh meat (raw) 1 oz raw chicken liver (or other raw liver) 1-2 raw chicken hearts (approximately 1 oz) or 1 oz other raw heart ½ to ¾ tsp bone meal or crushed egg shell (air-dry egg shell then crush with mortar and pestle or in a clean coffee grinder)
Weigh out your meat and organs. Add bone meal or egg shell. Add water until about the consistency of thick cream (no thinner!!). Blending up in a food processor is the easiest.
You can make the soupie and freeze it in ice cube trays. Then you simply pop them out and add some warm water and you have instant soupies.Once your unofficial thread is up and you have the ingredients for soupie, I'll be happy to check in and offer tips to get Gomez eating. The other Mentors will also be there for you. I'll tag Jason for help with loading pictures. bitbyter is our tech guru. It's Sunday so he might be out and about but I'll keep an eye out for you. :wave3:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:28:29 GMT -5
I read through your application. Gomez has been through alot and I'm so happy that he found his Forever home with you. Until your Mentor is assigned, you can go to Diet Transitions and begin an unofficial switching thread. The Mentors will offer advice and support until you are assigned your own and then you will be well on your way. Gomez is not a baby so he will have imprinted on his kibble. He may not recognize this new food as food. You will be the key to success for him in switching. Patience and persistence will play a big part in his transition. If you need help in building a thread, let me know and I will build it for you. You will want to start Gomez off with the soupie recipe and work on getting him to eat that first and then begin adding slivers to his soupie. An older ferret and he is still young but not a baby, will do best beginning with the soupie. It's balanced and will give him his required nutrients while you go through a switching process. Here is the Soupie Recipe: 8oz raw chicken thigh meat (raw) 1 oz raw chicken liver (or other raw liver) 1-2 raw chicken hearts (approximately 1 oz) or 1 oz other raw heart ½ to ¾ tsp bone meal or crushed egg shell (air-dry egg shell then crush with mortar and pestle or in a clean coffee grinder)
Weigh out your meat and organs. Add bone meal or egg shell. Add water until about the consistency of thick cream (no thinner!!). Blending up in a food processor is the easiest.
You can make the soupie and freeze it in ice cube trays. Then you simply pop them out and add some warm water and you have instant soupies.Once your unofficial thread is up and you have the ingredients for soupie, I'll be happy to check in and offer tips to get Gomez eating. The other Mentors will also be there for you. I'll tag Jason for help with loading pictures. bitbyter is our tech guru. It's Sunday so he might be out and about but I'll keep an eye out for you. :wave3:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:30:52 GMT -5
Ok thank you so much. I have all the soup recipe ready and am making it now. I did post an image and it took but cannot find it on the forum....get this I have built 2 hospital EMR system but cannot get this uploading lol I read through your application. Gomez has been through alot and I'm so happy that he found his Forever home with you. Until your Mentor is assigned, you can go to Diet Transitions and begin an unofficial switching thread. The Mentors will offer advice and support until you are assigned your own and then you will be well on your way. Gomez is not a baby so he will have imprinted on his kibble. He may not recognize this new food as food. You will be the key to success for him in switching. Patience and persistence will play a big part in his transition. If you need help in building a thread, let me know and I will build it for you. You will want to start Gomez off with the soupie recipe and work on getting him to eat that first and then begin adding slivers to his soupie. An older ferret and he is still young but not a baby, will do best beginning with the soupie. It's balanced and will give him his required nutrients while you go through a switching process. Here is the Soupie Recipe: 8oz raw chicken thigh meat (raw) 1 oz raw chicken liver (or other raw liver) 1-2 raw chicken hearts (approximately 1 oz) or 1 oz other raw heart ½ to ¾ tsp bone meal or crushed egg shell (air-dry egg shell then crush with mortar and pestle or in a clean coffee grinder)
Weigh out your meat and organs. Add bone meal or egg shell. Add water until about the consistency of thick cream (no thinner!!). Blending up in a food processor is the easiest.
You can make the soupie and freeze it in ice cube trays. Then you simply pop them out and add some warm water and you have instant soupies.Once your unofficial thread is up and you have the ingredients for soupie, I'll be happy to check in and offer tips to get Gomez eating. The other Mentors will also be there for you. I'll tag Jason for help with loading pictures. bitbyter is our tech guru. It's Sunday so he might be out and about but I'll keep an eye out for you. :wave3:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:53:03 GMT -5
Ok thank you so much. I have all the soup recipe ready and am making it now. I did post an image and it took but cannot find it on the forum....get this I have built 2 hospital EMR system but cannot get this uploading lol I read through your application. Gomez has been through alot and I'm so happy that he found his Forever home with you. Until your Mentor is assigned, you can go to Diet Transitions and begin an unofficial switching thread. The Mentors will offer advice and support until you are assigned your own and then you will be well on your way. Gomez is not a baby so he will have imprinted on his kibble. He may not recognize this new food as food. You will be the key to success for him in switching. Patience and persistence will play a big part in his transition. If you need help in building a thread, let me know and I will build it for you. You will want to start Gomez off with the soupie recipe and work on getting him to eat that first and then begin adding slivers to his soupie. An older ferret and he is still young but not a baby, will do best beginning with the soupie. It's balanced and will give him his required nutrients while you go through a switching process. Here is the Soupie Recipe: 8oz raw chicken thigh meat (raw) 1 oz raw chicken liver (or other raw liver) 1-2 raw chicken hearts (approximately 1 oz) or 1 oz other raw heart ½ to ¾ tsp bone meal or crushed egg shell (air-dry egg shell then crush with mortar and pestle or in a clean coffee grinder)
Weigh out your meat and organs. Add bone meal or egg shell. Add water until about the consistency of thick cream (no thinner!!). Blending up in a food processor is the easiest.
You can make the soupie and freeze it in ice cube trays. Then you simply pop them out and add some warm water and you have instant soupies.Once your unofficial thread is up and you have the ingredients for soupie, I'll be happy to check in and offer tips to get Gomez eating. The other Mentors will also be there for you. I'll tag Jason for help with loading pictures. @bitybyter is our tech guru. It's Sunday so he might be out and about but I'll keep an eye out for you. :wave3: That's funny. I have a computer type for a husband and I simply can not ask him for tech support. Where is a 12 year old when you need one? Once you have your soupie built, sit on the floor with Gomez and have a towel and a small spoon ready. Then put him on your lap and dab some soup on his lips and gums. He will have to lick it off. Once he does, he will either try to jump down or sit there for more. If he tries to jump down, gently place one arm across him and using your other hand, offer him some from the spoon. You don't want to hold him down, you just want him to know you are there and providing security and comfort during this strange experience. It may take a few tries but he'll get the idea. Talk sweetly to him and praise him. They understand more then you think and they pick up on our anxiousness or pleasure. Gomez may prefer the soup a little thinner at first and he may like it warmer or cooler. You'll get a feel for it as you go along. Ferrets also usually prefer plates. A bowl will cut off their line of sight and that goes against their natural instincts. In the wild, they are vulnerable when eating and need to be able to see any approaching predators. Even our domesticated ferrets still carry some of this forward. A navigation tip for the forum: All threads or new posts will show up under New Topics. You can look at the subject title and see on the far right hand side, who posted to it last and when. Even though you put something on a Board under say Natural Diet, it is there but it will be listed under the New Topics page. Sometimes searching for something that you posted is easier if you go to your Member profile page and look at either view Recent Threads or View Recent Posts. Does that make sense? Threads are something that someone or you built and others reply to. Posts are comments made to a thread, for example I am posting to your Tech Support Thread. Forgive me if I repeat something you know. This was my first forum and the simplest things were the things that I had trouble with so I like to help someone else avoid my learning curve. :wave3:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 17:58:39 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 19:18:48 GMT -5
Yes please....I have those pics just can't get them uploaded. Have dangling front side etc. Guess what....he ate soupie tonight, 1 oz we are so pysched
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 19:32:51 GMT -5
That makes a lot of sense, it is the simple things that sometimes appear hard. I did not think about a plate, we did it with our fingers, palm and a bowl.
|
|
|
Post by bitbyter on Oct 4, 2015 21:14:45 GMT -5
You can't directly upload pictures. You have to upload them to a picture service first (photobucket, image shack, etc).
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 18:24:55 GMT -5
Gomez ate his soupie last night, this morning and again tonight, about 1 oz each time along with about an oz of ground beef steak. He is doing really good.
This Saturday he has his 1st vet check since we adopted him last week.
He went for another walk this evening and loved it.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 19:47:00 GMT -5
Gomez did excellent for his first day and so did you. You both should be very proud. The walkie pictures on FB were darling. He is one very handsome young Manfert.
He liked his ground beef steak. That is simply wonderful. Beef is high in Iron and Vitamin B. That should be in his weekly menu. He's going to be a good eater. Most ferrets don't take to beef right away. Give him an extra special hug.
:wave3:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:55:31 GMT -5
Oh awesome.....we are very proud of him, good on the beef- I picked up some Delmonico steaks, two little ones last Friday as they were on sale and then I have an old grinder and said well he can't eat the chunks yet so let's grind it and he likes it so long as we hand feed him. :thankyou: for the kind words.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:58:50 GMT -5
Question, so even though I have bone, down the road if Gomez doesn't eat bone can he get enough from the bone meal we have and put in his soupie or not?
|
|
|
Post by raynebc on Oct 6, 2015 13:29:15 GMT -5
Bone meal isn't raw so he won't get as much nutrition out of it as he would with raw bone. I've read here that some people end up supplementing every meal with bone meal if the ferret can't chew bones, but I imagine that should be a last resort only.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 15:27:38 GMT -5
Bone meal is intended for short term use until they learn to eat bones. The benefits of bone include the nutrients found in bones, but it also builds jaw and neck strength and help to clean their teeth. It doesn't hurt to dust muscle meat for younger ferrets especially, who need high levels of calcium. I have the Now Brand of human grade bonemeal powder and will use it in organ soupies or if I suspect Mika is avoiding her bones. It's not a bad thing to have in your ferret supplies as long as you don't use it as a full time replacement for bone in meats. Gomez will learn to eat bone but that's down the road. The first stage is soupie like you are doing. Then you will begin to work on his eating slivers until he is eating all meat and then he won't being getting his soupie, he will move on to Frankenprey which includes bones. Take a look at the Frankenprey menu and you will see what your goals are and what his menu will look like a little bit further in his transition. docs.google.com/document/d/1ysfT1bIvXixXYv6QFjW_EZZqHymtRXRTc3E_wAxLbxU/edit?pli=1
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 5:21:36 GMT -5
Morning, We have the bone meal and have been using in his soupie, bought the KAL Bone Meal Powder human grade. I was asking because wondered what if Gomez doesn't eat bone eventually. The month prior to us finding him we diced, chopped, silvered and stocked up on all kinds of organ, muscle and bone meals. So, think we are good there. So you and our eventual mentor lnow we also plan to still get a kit female so we have one of each and her name will be Mortica....who knows one day Pugsly and Wednesday.
|
|