Skiff
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Post by Skiff on Jul 21, 2015 12:55:10 GMT -5
So I recently got a new baby hob, and he is adorable, but he is a dark eyed white, and as a result it turns out he is deaf, I have also been told he may have waardenburg syndrome (which I cant for the life of me fathom what it actually is no matter how much I read) and I have noticed that he now has a limp, he sort of hobbles around. I noticed it a few days ago, but it was very subtle, I watch him now and it seems more pronounced. He isn't in any pain, I can touch the leg and he does nothing, and he seems to have some control over it, just not the strength to walk on it. Could this be related to the waardenburg syndrome? One of my girls hasn't been very accepting of him so far and has been fairly rough with him biting him on the scruff and shaking him, could that be related? I have a vets appointment for him on Friday anyway so will mention it then but does anyone have any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 13:06:58 GMT -5
I'm glad that you're taking him to the Vet. For now, I'd keep your girl away from him. Let him get stronger. I wouldn't like to think that she is reacting with a natural instinct to his possible weakness. Think of Waardenburg as your boy being just a little bit special. He may be slower to develop mentally and physically. It's a neural crest disorder and they show that with a bit of a flatter head and wider nose. They are full of love though and are very sweet and loving. I'm not a breeder and your question really should go to a breeder. I'll tag Heather, crazylady , nancyl and of course, SherryThey will know much more than I do about your baby boy.  |
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Post by crazylady on Jul 21, 2015 14:02:24 GMT -5
Hi normally ferrets suffering from waardenburgs are deaf they also develop a lot slower and often have behavioural issues ( mainly due to being deaf they tend to nip simply because they get scared easily if someone picks them up with out them realising they are there )they are often quite verbal too so scream a lot if your little guy is limping it could be due to the shake from your other ferret ( maybe he banged his leg ) I would keep him apart from your other ferrets until he gains a bit weight and settles in and defiantly have a vet check him over kits bones can pop out of the socket quite easily good luck hope this helps take care bye for now
Bev
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Post by Heather on Jul 21, 2015 14:20:50 GMT -5
What are you feeding this wee mite at the moment? Raw or kibbles?
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 16:26:57 GMT -5
Exact thing here(I have a blaze and is deaf). She started limping a day or two after i got her. I figured mine got hurt in transit----Marshall Farm's baby or my senior did it, for she did get a hold of her by the neck and shook her. My baby's limp was so bad, her chin would bump the floor and it sounded like a peg leg. I got her x-rayed and no broke bones.
I would keep older ferrets away from her until she is older. If it was nutritional thing, it resolved it self. (raw feeder) I kept her in a Marshall farm ferret playpen for a couple weeks. Vet wanted me to keep her from moving too much.
Sad to say senior still does not accept her. two groups, now.
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Skiff
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Post by Skiff on Jul 21, 2015 17:06:51 GMT -5
He's on a raw diet although I leave a bowl of kibble in the hutch. Sad to hear that your senior did not accept her, I hope mine do, one of my girls is fine with him, the other not so much  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 17:34:52 GMT -5
Sorry I called your hob a her---got all girls here used to using female tense  My female used to drag my baby boy across the floor, but that quit when he got bigger(DIP DiDi + Buddy) I do not think u have any worries LOL |
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Post by nancyl on Jul 21, 2015 19:50:16 GMT -5
He may well have been injured. Be sure and tell the vet about it. Restrict his movement and keep him away from the one who doesn't like him. If it's a soft tissue injury he'll likely be fine in a few days.
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Post by FireAngel on Jul 21, 2015 23:19:14 GMT -5
I don't have anything to add about your concerns for his health (I'm still learning about that myself) but I'm wondering if he is eating raw why is he still getting kibble?
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Skiff
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Post by Skiff on Jul 23, 2015 12:53:21 GMT -5
That was just what the breeder I got him off said, he was raw fed but to leave a bowl with a little bit of kibble in the bottom just in case he gets hungry and has eaten all his food.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 13:46:25 GMT -5
Raw is fine left out. Here are the guidelines:
Raw soupie is good for 6-8 hours
Muscle meats up to 12 hours
Bone In meats up to 24 hours
Whole prey is good for 48 hours.
I would stop leaving kibble out and put in the raw in for overnight.
It's like offering junk food or a happy meal to little children. They'll prefer the junk and wait it out for that, leaving the healthy meal behind.
Ferrets are smart enough to hold out for the kibble, if they know it's going to be there at night.
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Post by crazylady on Jul 23, 2015 13:53:35 GMT -5
Hi as your hob is only a baby make sure to add plenty of bonemeal to his meat ( this ensures he gets the calcium he needs without having to chew on too many bones ) add it daily ( my kits at the moment think all meats come in breadcrumbs lol its bonemeal lol) calcium is a must for kits for strong bones and teeth I also give mine scrambled egg for breakfast as kits need multiple meals during the day ( mine have dropped down to three now but where receiving four once they leave a little then you know you can cut back on the meat lol ) good luck with you baby take care bye for now
Bev
p.s bonemeal is readily available at pet stores in the uk
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Post by msav on Jul 23, 2015 20:43:26 GMT -5
My little Bleu, had this problem as a kit. An Xray revealed a that there was a small gap between the ball and socket in his hip. The vet suggested that we could have a surgery done basically cutting the ball off and letting it heal. Or we could do nothing and he could be just fine. We decided to do nothing and keep an eye on him. He still has a limp and has an inability to keep hes leg straight while peeing on smooth surfaces.
Other than that he is not bothered by it.
You should get an xray done to see if there is any major issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 20:53:19 GMT -5
Lol---the happy meal part
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Skiff
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Post by Skiff on Jul 24, 2015 10:54:21 GMT -5
Well I took him to the vet this morning, they said that they could feel that there was very little resistance in his arm so they feel it is more likely to be a muscle issue rather than bone as there is no sign of a break, and they said that because his bones are still growing it may be worth waiting to do an x-ray. She said there are surgical options available but they may be pricey. As long as he is happy and not in any pain I'm fine with waiting and watching to see if things improve.
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