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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:05:56 GMT -5
Not really finance-wise to do monthly. Right now I can swing weekly or bi--weekly. Still I can do the Nature's Variety frozen raw bites easier because he has no problem handling that since I portion out what they get. But now I am going to have less time than I already have. I also have to figure now for insurance since we were under his and with his and my daughter both needing meds, it is going to get expensive quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:06:33 GMT -5
Well I have to make more soup tonight and freeze some. Got thighs this time with skin on it. Hopefully over the next few weeks I can get the pieces bigger and then start working toward more solid pieces. Is it ok that they stay on this soup and just chicken diet for so long? I just get worried about nutrition. The soup if balanced and they are fine for now. You haven't been doing it for that long. Sometimes if we get someone who is very stubborn and won't move to bone, then we suggest moving to bonemeal powder. That way they get their calcium and the nutrients that they would get from bone, from the bonemeal powder. Ferrets tear their meat with their front teeth and chew with their back teeth. That's why we advise slivers as oppose to chunks. If you find a comfortable size, say about like this ###### ######## Then focus on more slivers and less soup, until they're eating all slivers. If you wanted to, you could move on to another protein. You could use pork for example. Ideally, I like to stick to one protein at a time. So, if you could find pork heart and another pork organ like kidney or brains, you could make pork soup and try that for a few days. You could do pork meat and chicken heart and liver also. You haven't seen any intolerances or signs of allergy, and it might be fun for you to try something new. We need to make sure that you get some positive reinforcement also.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:11:46 GMT -5
Well I got some bad news today. My hubby lost his job due to company losing money. Looks like I will be picking up more hours at my job to make up for lost income. This means I am going to have to go back to feeding the Nature's Variety raw bites that were frozen. At least I tried. My hubby will not make up the food because he finds it disgusting and with him and his immune system being so bad, all he needs is one stupid infection to set him off. I know they ate the Nature's Variety chicken well, now should I add rabbit as well and rotate them on it? I just posted to your thread and saw this. I'm so sorry that your husband lost his job. Most of us have been thru something like that and it's not fun and it's scarey. Are you talking about NV rabbit? As I understand it, NV rabbit is sourced from China and I would stay away from any products for pets that come from China.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:12:47 GMT -5
the problem I have right now is trying to get them on slivers and now I won't be around or awake enough to get them to eat. Hubby won't do, even off a spoon. I have bone meal powder and can make soups along with nature's variety so they have some variety. They like the soup that is for sure. I have some left over NV chicken bites from before I switched and did pick up some rabbit today. I have no problem making soups, it's going to be slivers that will be the problem. I also have 10 lbs of chicken hearts, duck hearts and beef hearts so they will not go to waste. just need to get more liver and meat to make the soups for them. I can try the soups, just may have to stop the slivers
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 11:03:53 GMT -5
So the good news is that they will eat the Nature's Variety Raw frozen bites chicken and rabbit and have eaten duck slivers for the first time yesterday!! I may start with this combo for now along with the chicken raw soup recipe for a little while still introducing new things and working up to bigger slivers. It's a good start at least!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 13:16:08 GMT -5
So today I was adventurous and cut up a duck heart with some EVOO. Mozart ate it right up. Daisy had none of it whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 18:28:40 GMT -5
That's great! Now we just have to convince Daisy. Try running a piece under some hot water. Daisy may not like EVOO. Mine don't like EVOO, but will tolerate regular olive oil.
Mine love duck hearts and duck gizzards. It's a great way to feed them duck without spending a fortune on duck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:20:42 GMT -5
How often can u feed them heart?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 4:36:36 GMT -5
Yesterday I tried duck hearts and chicken gizzards cut into bigger chunks for Mozart. He actually took a few bites!! I did use the quail egg trick. I did make the chunks bigger than they should have been, but I am glad that he is not too resistant in eating them. He had a scruff and stuff for the gizzards and then ate two pieces willingly. He still is getting plenty of soup, both raw and the Nature's Variety. It is a start
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Post by Celene on Jan 23, 2015 6:08:59 GMT -5
Their diet should be at least 10% heart (pretty sure, should be confirmed by a mentor though since I'm technically a newbie)
The good thing though is that taurine (unlike vitamin A in liver) doesn't build up in their systems so more is fine. The commercial grind I feed is 20% heart.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 18:53:39 GMT -5
What commercial grind do you feed Celene?
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Post by Celene on Jan 23, 2015 19:24:01 GMT -5
It's by Red Dog Blue Cat and consists of 98% meat (20% heart, 10% liver) and 2% juiced veggies. Also has bone powder (or bone pieces in the chicken/turkey although my girls spit them out), salmon oil and egg yolk. It's made (very) locally to me though so I'm not sure where it's available.
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