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Post by Desiree on Feb 19, 2015 21:07:21 GMT -5
I found this today. I don't know whose it is. Should I be worried?
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Post by Desiree on Feb 19, 2015 23:42:19 GMT -5
Oh and I got weights today too but no pictures. Rebel - 1lb 7 ozs ( another loss ) Riot - 2lbs 4 ozs (a small gain) Arbor - 1lb 9.9 ozs (Gain no surprise there) Tundra - 1lb 13.8 ozs (he's going to be 2lbs before the weekends up!) Also this is what Rebel and Riot's food look like. I mix in some ground protein (I use chicken, rabbit, elk, beef, and pork with proper ratios of liver heart and other oragns) with the soup recipe (makes more sense than just adding water) and I have been adding in less water to the soup before adding it to the ground. No slivers in this meal. Have to make more.
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Post by Desiree on Feb 21, 2015 12:24:05 GMT -5
Um, so I don't know how I did it, but I fed only half of a guinea pig last time, so I still half of the first one and two full guinea pigs. Does that mess up my numbers to bad? I don't think 1/2 will make too much of a difference but I wanted to be sure.
Tundra and Arbor had their first whole quail last night and it was gone by the morning. They also had some day old chicks for a snack and they ate both of them. Whats the biggest whole thing I can feed them? I know I can do whole chicken wings, I can do chicken feet and duck feet (for snacks) and frog legs. Can I do CGH or is that two big for them? What about duck wings?
Slivers went so well this morning!! I put about .5 ozs in their soup/grind mix and they ate them all with no problem. One big piece did get picked up by Rebel and she chewed it and let it fall out of her mouth and that was it. But she ate the other smaller pieces. One step at a time right?
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Post by Desiree on Feb 21, 2015 20:42:15 GMT -5
So Arbor ate some fried rice the other day behind my back. I never though I would have to worry about that with ferrets nobody else sees people food as food! She pooped fine, no upset tummy or anything. I know the small mouthful she got isn't going to upset her anymore than the kibble she was fed before I got her but it still irked me.
Then today, she went for my girl scout cookies!!! I have a carb fiend in my house. (She did not get the cookie)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 21:31:01 GMT -5
I do have help though, my fiancee and my sister are always willing to feed her. Glad you have help, that makes it easier if she never gets to eating bigger meals
How the heck do I translate that over to eating meals that way?
It's good to know they WILL eat bigger pieces. For some reason they like the these old hunks?? Weird. I guess just keeping up on removing stashes. This way they are not filling up on this old, in our opinion, yucky food and makes they choose the fresher stuff.
That is an interesting looking poop. Looks like someone didn't process the fat in whatever meal they ate. Anything since?
That wet grind looks good, I think just continuing to add slivers will get them eating bigger and bigger pieces. How is their poops in this wetter foods? Not too runny I hope.
Um, so I don't know how I did it, but I fed only half of a guinea pig last time, so I still half of the first one and two full guinea pigs. Does that mess up my numbers to bad? I don't think 1/2 will make too much of a difference but I wanted to be sure.
It will not make too big a difference. The great part about feeding the frenkenpray with WP mixed in there is as long as you balance things in the LONG run, it is fine. So feeding half one week and the other half the next, is fine. Tundra and Arbor had their first whole quail last night and it was gone by the morning. They also had some day old chicks for a snack and they ate both of them. Whats the biggest whole thing I can feed them? I know I can do whole chicken wings, I can do chicken feet and duck feet (for snacks) and frog legs. Can I do CGH or is that two big for them? What about duck wings? I feed whole quails and half-1/3 CGH. I sapose if they WILL eat it before 48ish hours are up that they can have a whole one. I definitely feed whole duck wings without problems. Even chicken drumsticks are usually eaten without protest. They will not totally eat all the larger ends, but the middle of the large thigh bone is chewed on and mostly gone.
Slivers went so well this morning!! I put about .5 ozs in their soup/grind mix and they ate them all with no problem. One big piece did get picked up by Rebel and she chewed it and let it fall out of her mouth and that was it. But she ate the other smaller pieces. One step at a time right? That is GREAT!!! Keep adding a little more and a little more until the soupy is gone and then you can start increasing the size of the slivers.
So Arbor ate some fried rice the other day behind my back. I never though I would have to worry about that with ferrets nobody else sees people food as food! She pooped fine, no upset tummy or anything. I know the small mouthful she got isn't going to upset her anymore than the kibble she was fed before I got her but it still irked me. Then today, she went for my girl scout cookies!!! I have a carb fiend in my house. (She did not get the cookie) (giggle) my tiny girl Ruby is this way, she is carb FIEND! She will scale anything to get the cat food.
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Post by Desiree on Feb 24, 2015 11:27:09 GMT -5
Well I think Tundra and Arbor's appetites are starting to dwindle they seem to be eating just about 5 ozs a meal and leaving the rest. They are both around three months, is this normal?
Rebel is still declining in weight and it seems like she has some muscle wasting. I called my vet and talked to her about appetite and she said to get pepcid from the store as a at home carafate? I wasn't sure if this was a good idea. She said it was cheaper but had the same active ingredients and I wouldn't have to pay for a vet visit. We are really trying to hold out for the DES implant. IF it ever arrives. I have until the 5th before they absolutely need their lupron again to see if it comes in. I think something to help her tummy would really help her appetite.
I was weighing her food each time yesterday to have a clear track of the food she was eating. She had .5 ozs and then .7 ozs but I wasn't home for dinner.
One of our friends dogs started puking blood and we had to take him to the emergency vet. He's fine but very very old, possible 15 to 17 years of age. He's a rat terrier. I have to say that was one of the scariest moments in my life. I have never seen a dog so helpless. The vet said that he is really healthy for such an old dog so I'm happy we were able to bring him home.
I'm assuming she is eating about 2 ozs a day which is good, so I don't know why she is losing weight.
In any case, I know that Riot would eat bigger chunks if they were smothered in soup but Rebel isn't there yet and I want her food to be as accessible as possible at night so I know that if I pushed him forward he wouldn't eat the chunks during the day and wait for the "good stuff" at night. (headwall)
He did eat all the soup and food last night so I'm upping the oz amount and adding in more slivers.
ETA - She ate .8 ozs this morning, almost all on her own.
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Post by Desiree on Feb 24, 2015 12:02:55 GMT -5
Sorry forgot to answer your questions. No, no more weird poops like that. Just a one time thing. Still don't know who did it.
All poops are good. A little runny but nothing crazy. I tend to add more or less bone powder to a meal depending on what I see.
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Post by Desiree on Feb 24, 2015 16:55:02 GMT -5
Little brat ate CGH today. I'm gonna push him to eat full raw since he will obviously. He must have still been hungry so he went and ate some of the kits food.
I'm thinking CGH for a few days. I will have to separate Rebel and Riot so that he can't eat the soup. If it stresses him out I'll put them back together.
Arbor was a brat. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 21:37:22 GMT -5
Arbor is hilarious!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 21:40:51 GMT -5
Well I think Tundra and Arbor's appetites are starting to dwindle they seem to be eating just about 5 ozs a meal and leaving the rest. They are both around three months, is this normal? YES! As it warms up and as they get older, they will eat less. A ferret can loose almost 40% of their weight from winter to summer. It will shock you the first time they loose all their winter weight and fur! Rebel is still declining in weight and it seems like she has some muscle wasting. I called my vet and talked to her about appetite and she said to get pepcid from the store as a at home carafate? I wasn't sure if this was a good idea. She said it was cheaper but had the same active ingredients and I wouldn't have to pay for a vet visit. We are really trying to hold out for the DES implant. IF it ever arrives. I have until the 5th before they absolutely need their lupron again to see if it comes in. I think something to help her tummy would really help her appetite. I am not familiar enough with this to give you a good answer here. How well do you trust your vet? How 'ferret knowledgeable' are they? If you want to post a thread in the health section, you might get some better advise from more experienced ferrents on this. I'm sorry, I am learning too on this one.
I was weighing her food each time yesterday to have a clear track of the food she was eating. She had .5 ozs and then .7 ozs but I wasn't home for dinner. That's not HORRIBLE, sometimes our little ladies can eat as little as 2 oz a day. It seems like such a tiny amount, but really as long as weights are okay then it is enough.
One of our friends dogs started puking blood and we had to take him to the emergency vet. He's fine but very very old, possible 15 to 17 years of age. He's a rat terrier. I have to say that was one of the scariest moments in my life. I have never seen a dog so helpless. The vet said that he is really healthy for such an old dog so I'm happy we were able to bring him home. Oh GOSH how scarry! That is super old, even for a little dog. I hope he continues to get better.
I'm assuming she is eating about 2 ozs a day which is good, so I don't know why she is losing weight. I agree, 2 oz is normal for a female. It might just be her transitioning to her summer weight. How is her activity level?
In any case, I know that Riot would eat bigger chunks if they were smothered in soup but Rebel isn't there yet and I want her food to be as accessible as possible at night so I know that if I pushed him forward he wouldn't eat the chunks during the day and wait for the "good stuff" at night. He did eat all the soup and food last night so I'm upping the oz amount and adding in more slivers. ETA - She ate .8 ozs this morning, almost all on her own A little tough love isn't a bad thing. You have to be careful with our older babies (and sickies of course), but not 'letting' them hold off for something better is sometimes the way to go. Mine go through stages where they decide they are not going to eat something like duck for example. I will go to feed and it looks like they haven't TOUCHED their breakfast. I am feeding chunks that are big enough that if this happens, I just leave it and 'force' them to eat this undesirable meal. By the next meal time, most of what they 'didn't want' is gone. They would rather eat something than starve luckily. Again, be careful. This is okay to do with young ferrets that have no sign of dropping blood sugars. Your older kids, this isn't advised of course.
I love feeding CGH and quail for beginner ferrets. The bones are small enough that they really learn to love crunching on bones. It wont hurt them a tiny bit if you feed CGH for a few days, just watch the poops
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Post by Desiree on Feb 25, 2015 13:07:04 GMT -5
How well do you trust your vet? How 'ferret knowledgeable' are they? I trust the vets that I go to, for sure. They are fairly knowledgeable about ferrets. She respects that I live an hour away from her and that with two elderly ferrets vet bills tend to be high so combining appointments is easier for me. I just want to give her some relief. However, I can only find the pills and I'm really uncomfortable with shoving those down her throat or mixing with water. So might hold out for a little bit. She has been eating, just resists for the first minute or so. I'm wondering if she is nauseous. How is her activity level?She has been great. She is my morning ferret, she is normally up for about two hours in the morning, running and playing. She is my explorer and has to resniff everything before she can play and then she chases around the crew policing them. Sometimes she gets tackled and then she starts dooking like crazy. I think I'm overreacting honestly. My two little ones are just so chunky and Riot is heavy from all the muscle. When I pick her up, she feels so small. Her coat still looks great too and she looks fine. Just feels small. She is starting to gray on her haunches Of course, today, she ate .8ozs this morning, very well. She even got some slivers and ate them. She swallows some of them whole? I'm guessing that is laziness right there. So someones got a hold of plastic ziploc baggie and ate a small corner off and I have no idea who it was! My suspicion is Arbor, my little plastic chewer and carb fiend. Should I start a blockage protocol? She has been eating. I have class so I don't know if I can watch her to see if she poops.
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Post by Desiree on Feb 26, 2015 14:38:35 GMT -5
Weigh in day and pictures. Rebel - 1lb 6.7 ozs (.3 ozs loss) This is the best picture I could get of her top down. Little brat doesn't like any oils and refuses to hold still. Riot - 2lbs 3.7ozs (.3oz loss) Arbor - 1lb 13.9 ozs Look at that belly full of heart!! Tundra - 2lbs 2.5 ozs (So close to Riot although he feels bigger!) Also I haven't see the piece of baggie yet either which makes me nervous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 21:54:02 GMT -5
Riot still look thin, but if she's still active it's good. Could they have maybe stashed the piece of bag?
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Post by Desiree on Feb 26, 2015 22:02:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Riot is still active. He plays and everything. Yeah he has never not looked thin though. I think when I get him on DES he will start gaining some muscle back again.
It's possible they stashed it. I didn't think of that. I'll have a look around and see if I can find it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 17:20:39 GMT -5
It is certainly possible, mine do :/
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