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Post by katt on Mar 21, 2013 2:31:09 GMT -5
Aw yay! That is a good start at least! As for why he couldn't chew it, part of it is he needs to build up those chewing muscles, part of it is he just isn't used to the texture (or taste) so he still isn't quite sure it is food. That is definitely great that he is showing interest though! Were you able to try the kibble soup? How did that go? For Tank part of it is as I said above, it take a little bit of time to build up those chewing muscles. Part of it is just him getting used to it all. Slowly increase the size of the chunks that you feed him and make them more piled together to ease him into eating bigger pieces.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 5:26:59 GMT -5
Sorry but I did not have enough time for the soup I will do it today though for sure. And ask for tank, I will cut it small for now and gradually increase the size and pile.
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Post by katt on Mar 21, 2013 15:31:23 GMT -5
Okay, let me know how the soup goes. And feel free to keep offering Simon little chunks whenever you feed Tank. You never know when he might accept it! You can try crushing up a little kibble and use it to "bread" a sliver of meat too, that might entice him to actually eat it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 20:39:32 GMT -5
Good news and bad news! Good news is simon took the kibble soup great. I even put a little silver of meat on top of it and he slurped it up while he was sucking in the soup ;D Tank seems not to be eating much..He hasnt touched any of the little chunks of chicken i put there but 2 days ago he was gobbling them down. And i actually say him eat them so i know before he didnt just hide them. What should i do. Im so upset, he was doing great and now nothing
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Post by katt on Mar 22, 2013 0:05:28 GMT -5
Have you changed the type of food he is getting (as in giving pork instead of chicken or heart instead of breast meat)? Has anything else in his environmen changed? Is he pooping and how do the poops look? Is he acting lethargic or otherwise abnormal? For now try hand feeding him. You can mix the meat in q blender wih some warm water to make a muscle-meat soup too. If you think he might have eaten something adding a little canned pumpkin (NOT pie filling, ingredient should just say pumpkin and water). For Simon I am glad he took to the soup! For his next meal try adding in a few more little slivers of meat and see if he slurps those up too. When I can get on from a computer and instead of my phone I will post the raw soup recipe so you can get the ingredients. You will start mixing the raw soup into his kibble soup and gradually increasingthe raw while decreasing the kibble.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 5:44:37 GMT -5
His diet has not changed at all still the leg quarters. I put pellets there last night and he hadn't even touched those. He is also a bit dehydrated I think. I scruffed him for him to taste something and his skin stayed up a little. But I always have water avaliable in a bowl so I don't know why he won't drink. His acting the same as always though. I will try to hand feed him later as I'm worried he's not getting enough food and it will stunt his growth or cause problems down the line. I love my little guy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 16:21:06 GMT -5
A little update, Tank has still not ate anything. When i got home i hand fed him little chucks of meat and he went crazy eating them. I just dont get it, h*ll eat them off my hand, but not out of the bowl We also buy live chicken once in a while so we kill and eat. Today was one of those days. My dad had done the killng already when i got home. He had cut there heads off sence we dont eat them and asked if i want to give them to the boys. I gave one to each and they loved it! Not eeating wise though. They chewed a little then used it as a toy. I then realized how creepy it was them playing with a head and toy it out. But...Simon chewed it too so he got some taste
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Post by katt on Mar 23, 2013 11:26:23 GMT -5
Ugh, I fell asleep posting last night. So right now Tank will eat, but only if hand fed? How are his poops? He could be going through a bit of shelter shock from being separated from his litter and mom, coming into a new home where everything is strange... it can be stressful on the little guys. That's great that they liked the head. Next time see if you can break it open a bit for them to expose the brains and other goodies inside. The head is the most nutritious part of the prey! That's great they were playing and chomping at it though. It will help to develop a taste for the meat and build those chewing muscles.
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Post by katt on Mar 23, 2013 11:30:07 GMT -5
Soup for switch: 8oz chicken(or other meat) One chicken liver(or 2oz other liver) 2 chicken hearts(or 1oz other heart) 1/2 tsp eggshell powder This is the standardized soup recipe for the switch. It is balanced so that even if it takes a while to get a fuzz switched over, they are still getting the nutrition that they need. Right now I would like you to get the ingredients and make a good batch. You can store it by freezing the soup in an ice cube tray. Then the cubes can just be thawed out. I think that for a few days at least it would be good to put Tank on the soup. Since he is already eating whole meats it should be an easy thing to do, but it is a new texture so you may need to show him that it is food. I think he may eat a little more on the soup. Meanwhile, with Simon I want you to add a little bit of the raw soup into his kibble soup. Just a tiny bit to start. If he eats it with no complaint, add a little more for the next meal. We will gradually increase the amount of raw soup and decrease the amount of kibble soup until he is eventually eating all-raw soup. Continue offering the chunks throughout this process too, the earlier he eats them the easier for you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 17:25:20 GMT -5
I will make the soup tonight and offer them some. Do i just through the ingrients in a blender?
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Post by katt on Mar 23, 2013 18:11:43 GMT -5
Yep! The more water you add the thinner the soup will be, feel free to thin it up as much as needed for them to eat it. Warm water is best too because it makes the soup warm and more enticing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 17:09:13 GMT -5
Soup didnt go to well with simon He licked then ran away. For tank i didnt even try the soup yet. Remeber i said he wasnt eating? He had already a chicken bone inside his eating den (when he gets scared eating out in the open he goes in this) and today i checked and it was completely dry. No meat on it and even some of the end of the bone was broken so that meat he ate it. He has the kibble there but he hates it. After i saw the meat eaten off the bone i went and tried to give him some little chunks. He went crazy eating them so so so so so fast. His face was like daddy i lovee you! It was like christmas for him. So hes eating meat again and all happy
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Post by katt on Mar 25, 2013 4:44:25 GMT -5
Soup didnt go to well with simon He licked then ran away. For tank i didnt even try the soup yet. Remeber i said he wasnt eating? He had already a chicken bone inside his eating den (when he gets scared eating out in the open he goes in this) and today i checked and it was completely dry. No meat on it and even some of the end of the bone was broken so that meat he ate it. He has the kibble there but he hates it. After i saw the meat eaten off the bone i went and tried to give him some little chunks. He went crazy eating them so so so so so fast. His face was like daddy i lovee you! It was like christmas for him. So hes eating meat again and all happy Ran away how? That doesn't mean much to me. Did you scruff and stuff? Did he lick it on his own? Was he in distress or just wanting to go play rather than eat? And how much raw soup did you add into the kibble soup? Did you continue to try to hand feed him at all? I am glad Tank is eating normally again. Maybe he was just stressed... :S Keep monitoring him and see how he does with different meats like I mentioned before. As long as he continues to eat the raw normally, there is no reason to keep the kibble in the cage. It's only going to cause stomach upset at this point if he eats some as kibble and raw digest at different rates.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 6:15:10 GMT -5
He ran off and he was hungry still cause after a while he started eating his kibble but only the side were the soup wasn't. I will try to scruff and stuff today. Tanks poop was a little watery today. Does that mean anything?
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Post by katt on Mar 25, 2013 11:46:23 GMT -5
Could mean that he has/had a bit of a bug, or it could be from stress. It could also be that he is still adapting to the diet change, which is normal.
You didn't tell me how much raw you mixed into Simon's soup. Did you make sure to mix just a TINY bit of the raw soup into his kibble soup?
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