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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2013 0:35:32 GMT -5
Did you puree the heart? To get them accepting anything new like that you will often have to do an entire switch again. Remove food 2 hrs before. Finger feed PUREED heart or liver several times while they are out until they start accepting it. When they go back into the cage give the regular food back again. Move from finger to spoon to dish. Then move to chunks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 10:10:23 GMT -5
His soup is pretty well a puree.
Her hearts were just cut up. She has devoured gizzards and hearts for weeks now that have been cut up so I didn't think to puree them. The only organ she has hated so far from the get-go was the liver which was have pureed and added cream to, to work with.
This batch of parts is the first time we have seen her not be interested in the hearts and gizzards, which is why we wondered about a source change being an issue.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2013 10:13:41 GMT -5
In that case, it could well be because it's a different brand. Mine won't accept any chicken wings from Costco for some reason ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 10:32:16 GMT -5
We will be picking up her old brand tonight to give that a shot, to see if it is the brand.
Also, I know we have discussed the importance of them getting difference organs for different nutrients, but are they like humans in that some just reject a specific food type for life because they do not like it, or will they all eventually eat everything, even if reluctantly?
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Post by Sherry on Feb 22, 2013 12:49:05 GMT -5
I've found that with work you can get the to accept everything. Although some meats are definitely preferred.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:25:16 GMT -5
The last two nights with them we went a little off course to try to force his hand. We hand fed them both with a spoon last night. She ate the soup without issue, but he... I wish i had been recording. I dabbed a bit on his nose, and when he went to lick it off, i put some on his tongue from the spoon. He started to lick for a moment and then actually let his mouth fall open and he did a dry heave like he had eaten something terrible. I couldn't stop laughing. The "off course" part we have done the last two nights, is the kibble. We haven't put any kibble in the cage for the last two days. This morning we woke up and went to check on them and both the soup bowl and the hearts/gizzards bowl were totally empty! His stool this morning had a mixture of textures, which I would attribute to the raw food rather than the squash last night because they got no more than a few licks of the squash. Worried he might not be eating, we weighed them first thing: Sherlock: 1.255kg Moriarty .88kg They are both maintaining their weight
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:27:22 GMT -5
And here is the pic with Moriarty. We put them on the box for scale so you could get a better view of their size.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 23, 2013 10:33:41 GMT -5
They are looking good! And that is fantastic about them cleaning everything up We can now start progressing more quickly And yes, that gagging is fairly normal ;D Looks like you've definitely got a little diva on your hands! Okay, as quickly as they will accept it, bring all meals up to a wet ground meat texture.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:38:37 GMT -5
When we cut up the chicken for soup yesterday, we set aside the skin because neither of them seem to like it.
I had seen some posts about chew toys. Would it be an OK thing for us to bake the skin, or even cook it in the skillet with a touch of oil to crips the skins up to see if they play with/eat them that way?
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Post by Sherry on Feb 23, 2013 10:40:08 GMT -5
They don't like the skin right now because they have to chew it. Try cutting it up small(ish) for now. If they won't take it that way, then try crisping it a bit. The thing is, they really need the fat in the skin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:46:50 GMT -5
OK. When we had pureed the first soup, the skin didn't get processed well. We will try to cut it in to small bits with scissors this morning and try to remember to mix it in with their soups.
And mo chews through her chunks of chicken and parts without issue, but she will often leave skin behind if she can.
Will try smaller pieces.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 23, 2013 18:10:49 GMT -5
Try her with some larger pieces, no soup. Maybe wings or something like that. If you try wings, segment them, cut the middle between the two bones, and smash the larger drumette a good bit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:42:53 GMT -5
Mo is certainly eating lots - her mess this morning was very evident of that.
Sherlock on the other hand, not only didn't make a mess last night, but not this morning either. We tried syringe feeding, and it didn't go well, and he was grumpy for the rest of the time he was out.
I did just see the video that was posted yesterday on syringe feeding and we will try to follow that this afternoon if needed.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 24, 2013 13:34:16 GMT -5
Is it possible he could have eaten something he shouldn't have? Even if they are eating minimal they should still be pooping regularly. If he seems lethargic, refusing food and treats you need to get him to a vet asap!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 18:24:24 GMT -5
He seems to be acting like his normal self with the exception of eating. The kits are out now and will be for about 2 hours, then we'll feed them. We are going to try the syringe feeding like in the video with Sherlock. Mo is still eating everything.
We weighed Sherlock a few minutes ago and he now weighs 1.12kg. He's down from 1.25kg.
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