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Post by Jeremy's Boggle on Dec 12, 2012 21:10:26 GMT -5
Poor Mischief. I hope everything is ok.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 21:13:07 GMT -5
We do too. Sending positive energy and prayers your way, hoping for the best!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 21:23:08 GMT -5
I hope he's okay.
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Post by Sherry on Dec 12, 2012 21:47:53 GMT -5
I keep checking back as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 22:23:22 GMT -5
Sorry guys, was a bit busy. Thank you all for the check ups and concerns So we have been home for a few hours and Mischief is much the same - lethargic, sleepy, can't walk around or move around much (but boy can he alligator roll like crazy ), and he is having a hard time getting out of the litter box (but he can get in OK). However, he is still probably feeling the effects of the sedation from today. I think the sedation threw him for a loop. It was really hard getting him to wake up and he hasn't wanted to stay awake when we have woken him up. But on the bright side, when he is awake he is still alert and aware, he doesn't SEEM to be in any pain, he is eating well (he ate nearly 3 ounces a few hours after coming home) and he took his Metacam like a champ (in fact he LOVED the stuff). But it tuckered him out, even though he did it all laying on his side, and he then went right back to sleep. Tomorrow will probably show us what is really in store for him after the meds have all worn off. As for the vet visit - the vet really doesn't want to make a diagnosis until all the tests come back. However, he thinks that maybe Mischief somehow tweaked his back and caused some kind of swelling somewhere, which is why he put him on Metacam (but not much as he is doing 1.5mL once a day for 10 days). He said that if we don't see any improvement in 3-5 days then we will need to reassess what is going on, OR if he gets worse we are to immediately bring him back in. He mentioned several possibilities, but I didn't catch all the names too well, and then said there were other possibilities he could think of but didn't want to alarm me so he didn't mention them. SOOOO, we play the waiting game. On the bright side, my vet doesn't SEEM to think this is too serious. Hopefully after the pain meds and some bed rest Mischief will be OK. @sherry - concerning the distemper, I just wanted to mention it as my vet said that though it is rare Distemper in ferrets can SOMETIMES present like Meningittis. I had NO IDEA. Just thought I'd let everyone know. As for other possibilities mentioned - A stroke is still a possibility, though considering his demeanor when awake I don't know how likely this is. He is sleepy and lethargic but aware and alert. He isn't vomiting. He doesn't appear to be in any pain. His appetite is as good as always. He has gained weight. I don't know about a fever though - I don't think one was taken. There are just so many possibilities here and I don't know how we will pinpoint one single one. OH YEAH, and his BG was 150, so insulinoma isn't too much of a concern, and his xray appeared normal. We didn't do an MRI, and we might not depending on what the vet thinks tomorrow. I don't know about a CT scan.
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Post by acodlin on Dec 12, 2012 22:27:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the update! Hopefully it is just a pulled back muscle and nothing worse. They like to injure themselves is the very cages we buy to keep them safe!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 22:29:47 GMT -5
Again, thank you all so much for your concern! It really means a lot! It is so nice to know there are others out there as concerned about my babies as I am, and are here for us when we need them And if anyone has any ideas here I will consider them all and mention it to my vet when he calls tomorrow. Thanks again!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 22:33:43 GMT -5
Thanks for keeping us posted, fingers crossed over here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 22:34:21 GMT -5
Very true Acodlin. But I think in Mischief's case his Waardiness is what could have injured him (if that is what this is). He CONSTANTLY runs into things, throws himself out of thinks, jumps on/off/into thinks. He really is SPECIAL Also, and I mentioned this to my vet though he isn't concerned about it, last week Mischief took a dive off the second main level of his 142 and fell down about 3-4 feet to the *step* below, rolled off of that to the next, and then the next, and then ran into a box on his way to go potty in the corner. I was SO careful but he managed to literally SHOOT out of the cage UNDER my hand that was holding Tak while I was putting them all up for the night, so I coudln't catch him before he hit the *step*. I checked him over thoroughly and he seemed fine at the time, actually rather annoyed that I was messing with him and wouldn't let him go back to bed with his brothers.
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Post by Sherry on Dec 12, 2012 23:10:10 GMT -5
Pinching/twisting something actually makes a lot of sense, and it's done so easily. Could have been as simple as itching himself off a shelf. Fingers crossed that's all it is!
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Post by katt on Dec 13, 2012 3:57:56 GMT -5
Hopefully it is just a little back pain! :S Fingers crossed! Please keep us posted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 7:40:05 GMT -5
Fingers & paws crossed!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 13:35:54 GMT -5
Ok, so last night we couldn't tell much as Mischief would only wake up long enough to eat and potty. As of this morning he seems to be doing better He is still eating well, his gums are pink, he is pottying fine and not throwing up, and he can actually walk around today! He is on orders to maintain bedrest for a few days, but Mischief is a VERY active fert so keeping him couped up in a small cage might be worse for him than letting him out to walk around a bit (he would cage rage I think if we left him locked up all day - which can't be good on his back). We have allowed him out of the cage, but under strict supervision - we aren't letting his brothers mess with him and we aren't letting him climb anything, we are only letting him walk around a bit. THe sedation is wearing off so he is getting ancy, but he FINALLY found a nice place to sleep and hasn't gotten up since. He is still having a little bit of a hard time getting around, but at least he isn't falling over every attempt he makes today. Hopefully, after a few days of rest mixed with the meds he will be better by next week. On a behavioral note - he seems to be in good spirits, just a little tired, and he doesn't seem to be in any pain still. He has been grooming himself and rubbing on his blankies again like a little cutey Thanks again for all the good thoughts! I will update this thread as Mischief (hopefully) gets better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 13:53:52 GMT -5
Very true Acodlin. But I think in Mischief's case his Waardiness is what could have injured him (if that is what this is). He CONSTANTLY runs into things, throws himself out of thinks, jumps on/off/into thinks. He really is SPECIAL Also, and I mentioned this to my vet though he isn't concerned about it, last week Mischief took a dive off the second main level of his 142 and fell down about 3-4 feet to the *step* below, rolled off of that to the next, and then the next, and then ran into a box on his way to go potty in the corner. I was SO careful but he managed to literally SHOOT out of the cage UNDER my hand that was holding Tak while I was putting them all up for the night, so I coudln't catch him before he hit the *step*. I checked him over thoroughly and he seemed fine at the time, actually rather annoyed that I was messing with him and wouldn't let him go back to bed with his brothers. Yeeeah my waardy Chell has taken a dive out of the top level of our triple unit FN a couple of times. Crazy little nut job will just go diving out of the cage or will be trying to jump onto me while I'm trying to get another ferret in the cage and the door closed and I don't always manage to catch her in time if I've got my hands full with other ferrets. It's a miracle that she hasn't hurt herself yet. I feel for you 100%. Sometimes you simply cannot save them from themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 14:05:37 GMT -5
OK, so the vet just called. He said Mischief's heart and lungs were the proper size and looked good, all his organs looked fine, his spine seemed fine, and in general the xray was normal. Also, his blood test was a bunch of normal - proper lymphocyte count, kidney and liver values good, red blood cell count good, BG good, and everything else fine as well. He said that all this combined with the fact that Mischief is able to walk around a bit today makes him again lean towards damaged soft tissue. He said this soft tissue doesn't show up on xray, but that since Mischief's tests all came back normal he doesn't feel comfortable charging me for an MRI or CT at the moment. He wants to wait and see how Mischief responds to his Metacam and bed rest, and if he is better by next week then it was probably soft tissue distress. If this is truly the case then we are going to have to figure out how to keep little Waardy Mischief from constantly running into and falling out of things. I don't know how we will manage this
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